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They're proposing to guarantee 50% of the money in to be paid back out. They've not answered other questions I asked a while back... https://news.ycombinator.

They're proposing to guarantee 50% of the money in to be paid back out. They've not answered other questions I asked a while back... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17957901 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17957901

hp 8y ago
Apologies, I didn't see that comment before. The target customer is large organizations and the pricing is typical for that. We'll be getting a pricing page up that explains the details. There are conditions and commitments for maintainers, see: * https://tidelift.com/about/lifter https://tidelift.com/about/lifter * https://tidelift.com/docs/lifting/tasks-overview https://tidelift.com/docs/lifting/tasks-overview * https://tidelift.com/docs/lifting/agreement https://tidelift.com/docs/lifting/agreement This is a commercial transaction; subscribers are paying for value, and we are paying maintainers to help us provide the value. It is not a donation model. We think it is a favorable transaction for maintainers because it is royalty-style rather than hourly-consulting-style. The same amount of work can be sold N times. For donations there are a number of existing solutions and we would encourage people to use them also!
- sleepychu 8y ago
  > This is a commercial transaction; subscribers are paying for value, and we are paying maintainers to help us provide the value. That's just not what your branding/advertising is telling me. I understand that's what's happening but the way you're billing it comes across like you're Patreon for open source.
Jyaif 8y ago
50% !?!?!?!? What. The. Fuck. This is absurd.
- StefanKarpinski 8y ago
  Non-engineering spend at open source companies like RedHat or Anaconda is typically much higher than 50% of revenues. That includes sales and marketing, getting through the IT approval process at big companies, etc. all of which is difficult and pretty expensive.

hp 8y ago

Apologies, I didn't see that comment before. The target customer is large organizations and the pricing is typical for that. We'll be getting a pricing page up that explains the details. There are conditions and commitments for maintainers, see: * https://tidelift.com/about/lifter https://tidelift.com/about/lifter * https://tidelift.com/docs/lifting/tasks-overview https://tidelift.com/docs/lifting/tasks-overview * https://tidelift.com/docs/lifting/agreement https://tidelift.com/docs/lifting/agreement This is a commercial transaction; subscribers are paying for value, and we are paying maintainers to help us provide the value. It is not a donation model. We think it is a favorable transaction for maintainers because it is royalty-style rather than hourly-consulting-style. The same amount of work can be sold N times. For donations there are a number of existing solutions and we would encourage people to use them also!

sleepychu 8y ago
> This is a commercial transaction; subscribers are paying for value, and we are paying maintainers to help us provide the value. That's just not what your branding/advertising is telling me. I understand that's what's happening but the way you're billing it comes across like you're Patreon for open source.

Jyaif 8y ago

50% !?!?!?!? What. The. Fuck. This is absurd.

StefanKarpinski 8y ago
Non-engineering spend at open source companies like RedHat or Anaconda is typically much higher than 50% of revenues. That includes sales and marketing, getting through the IT approval process at big companies, etc. all of which is difficult and pretty expensive.