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> unless you really need IDE features and that's very often if you are a Java/Android dev. Even features like auto complete (let alone with prediction) is very
by balladeer 8y ago
> unless you really need IDE features
and that's very often if you are a Java/Android dev. Even features like auto complete (let alone with prediction) is very hard to get right elsewhere, let's say, somewhere like Vim. Not just the language, there's Android SDK itself and other libraries. But, if you count "not needing auto complete etc" as part of "know the language well enough" or that they trivial enough then, well, I rest my case.
- topspin 8y ago> very hard to get right elsewhere I wrote substantial systems before there were any Java IDEs. Nothing hard about it. Write a lot of code and it's easy. If that disturbs you I'm sorry, but you should allow that there are people with more skill than perhaps you've been exposed to.
- balladeer 8y agoNo, it doesn't disturb me at all. At work and among friends there are people who have more skills than I am exposed to and I get to learn a lot from them. However none of them ever advocate not using an IDE or claim not needing an IDE. In fact a lot of them use one or the other. I used to write in Vim (C) when I worked for that South Korean giant. After that I moved to Java/Android and I wouldn't get back to those days of Vim/C for anything. So I think it comes down to choice. The thing is GP commenter mentioned "masochism" and now I see the point.