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Where do you live that they don't? ;) My high school (in Maryland) started at 7:25. The middle school in my town in Massachussetts now starts at 7:40.

AllegedAlec 8y ago
I'm from the Netherlands. I believe that my primary school started at 08:15-08:30. High school started at the same time.
- jaclaz 8y ago
  Same in Italy, all schools - independently from grade/type - start in that timeframe, but there are some advantages from what seemingly happens in Boston: 1) Elementary and middle schools are (more or less) neighbourhood based, it is an exception that a pupil comes from far away. 2) The "problem" comes starting from high school, in Italy we have two "generic" high school types, the "Classico" and the "Scientifico" (I think there is no need for a translation) of which there are many + a number of "focused" or "professional" schools like Geometri, Ragionieri, Linguistico, Artistico, Alberghiero (Surveying, Accounting, Linguistic, Artistic, Hotelier) and usually it is the kids going to these latter types that have the longer commuting time/earlier waking needs, particularly those coming from villages nearby the city. In my times, I was lucky enough to be able to walk (accompanied or later alone) to elementary school as it was less that one block away, as well walk (some fifteen minutes walk away) to middle school and go by bike or moped or bus to high school (a fifteen to thirty minutes trip at the most). But I had friends that went to that or the other "professional" institute that had 1 h - 1 h 30 trips every morning, so they usually set the alarm clock to 6-6:15 in the morning. Now I will sound as an old grumpy bastard, but all in all none of us suffered from the scary consequences outlined in the article: "Sleep-deprived teens are at increased risk for poor academic performance, binge drinking, and suicide." Maybe, just maybe, it is that risk that is a tad bit exaggerated?

AllegedAlec 8y ago

I'm from the Netherlands. I believe that my primary school started at 08:15-08:30. High school started at the same time.

jaclaz 8y ago
Same in Italy, all schools - independently from grade/type - start in that timeframe, but there are some advantages from what seemingly happens in Boston: 1) Elementary and middle schools are (more or less) neighbourhood based, it is an exception that a pupil comes from far away. 2) The "problem" comes starting from high school, in Italy we have two "generic" high school types, the "Classico" and the "Scientifico" (I think there is no need for a translation) of which there are many + a number of "focused" or "professional" schools like Geometri, Ragionieri, Linguistico, Artistico, Alberghiero (Surveying, Accounting, Linguistic, Artistic, Hotelier) and usually it is the kids going to these latter types that have the longer commuting time/earlier waking needs, particularly those coming from villages nearby the city. In my times, I was lucky enough to be able to walk (accompanied or later alone) to elementary school as it was less that one block away, as well walk (some fifteen minutes walk away) to middle school and go by bike or moped or bus to high school (a fifteen to thirty minutes trip at the most). But I had friends that went to that or the other "professional" institute that had 1 h - 1 h 30 trips every morning, so they usually set the alarm clock to 6-6:15 in the morning. Now I will sound as an old grumpy bastard, but all in all none of us suffered from the scary consequences outlined in the article: "Sleep-deprived teens are at increased risk for poor academic performance, binge drinking, and suicide." Maybe, just maybe, it is that risk that is a tad bit exaggerated?