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I've been reading ESR for decades and have never noticed him saying anything racist. Can you provide a few examples? (And I suppose using "old" in this way is

I've been reading ESR for decades and have never noticed him saying anything racist. Can you provide a few examples? (And I suppose using "old" in this way is against the CoC?)

KirinDave 8y ago
No, you can google "Eric S Raymond racist quote" and get a bunch of them. No way I'm gonna dip my eyes back into the metaphorical peroxide of that man's writing. I paid thousands upon thousands of dollars to the Great Slate to make tqbf stop putting those things in my eyeline, I am that happy to avoid that man.
cdcfa78156ae5 8y ago
Here is a good example of ESR being racist: https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/816449724127608833 https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/816449724127608833 Here is an example of ESR being misogynist: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6907 http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6907
- AckSyn 8y ago
  That was not sexist That was not racist You clearly need to find actual examples of racism and sexism.
- throwaway5250 8y ago
  I recall thinking it sounded like BS at the time, but the "misogynist" link seems prescient in hindsight.
IvyMike 8y ago
Here's a piece from ESR where he describes an unnamed race. Let me say upfront that I guess I'm one of the terrible anti-racists he warns you about in this very piece.. > One was: their skin color looks fecal. The other was: their bone structure doesn’t look human. And they’re just off-reference enough to be much more creepy than if they looked less like people, like bad CGI or shambling undead in a B movie. When I paid close enough attention, these were the three basic data under the revulsion; my hindbrain thought it was surrounded by alien shit zombies. The overall piece's conclusion is "I, ESR, am so enlightened that that I managed to overcome this perception". http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=5001 http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=5001
- NoIWont 8y ago
  Lol and the title of the piece is "Preventing visceral racism", its main thesis is about an experience that freaked him out and about how racism starts in groups. Your quote is cherry picked from where he is describing his freaked reaction.

I've been reading ESR for decades and have never noticed him saying anything racist. Can you provide a few examples? (And I suppose using "old" in this way is against the CoC?)

KirinDave 8y ago

No, you can google "Eric S Raymond racist quote" and get a bunch of them. No way I'm gonna dip my eyes back into the metaphorical peroxide of that man's writing. I paid thousands upon thousands of dollars to the Great Slate to make tqbf stop putting those things in my eyeline, I am that happy to avoid that man.

cdcfa78156ae5 8y ago

Here is a good example of ESR being racist: https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/816449724127608833 https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/816449724127608833 Here is an example of ESR being misogynist: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6907 http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6907

AckSyn 8y ago
That was not sexist That was not racist You clearly need to find actual examples of racism and sexism.
throwaway5250 8y ago
I recall thinking it sounded like BS at the time, but the "misogynist" link seems prescient in hindsight.

IvyMike 8y ago

Here's a piece from ESR where he describes an unnamed race. Let me say upfront that I guess I'm one of the terrible anti-racists he warns you about in this very piece.. > One was: their skin color looks fecal. The other was: their bone structure doesn’t look human. And they’re just off-reference enough to be much more creepy than if they looked less like people, like bad CGI or shambling undead in a B movie. When I paid close enough attention, these were the three basic data under the revulsion; my hindbrain thought it was surrounded by alien shit zombies. The overall piece's conclusion is "I, ESR, am so enlightened that that I managed to overcome this perception". http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=5001 http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=5001

NoIWont 8y ago
Lol and the title of the piece is "Preventing visceral racism", its main thesis is about an experience that freaked him out and about how racism starts in groups. Your quote is cherry picked from where he is describing his freaked reaction.