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Regarding point a, the Entertainment and Devices division included Live, which they are heavily investing in, thus giving out a loss. The true profit of the XBo

Regarding point a, the Entertainment and Devices division included Live, which they are heavily investing in, thus giving out a loss. The true profit of the XBox is much higher than $679 million. And what do you mean by 'Windows Phone 7 is not market ready, and it's already mid-October' ? They're launching in 2 days in Europe and in 3 weeks in the US. Also, from your linked article you write that Verizon won't be bringing out a WP7 phone in 2010 or 2011. Source?

steveklabnik 16y ago
Doesn't Entertainment and Devices also include the Mac Business Unit, as well? Yep, apparently, it does: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_Business_Unit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_Business_Unit
- contextfree 16y ago
  They moved/are moving (not sure if it happened yet) Mac Office into the regular Office division, FYI. I guess it's probably not yet reflected in earnings statements.
cryptoz 16y ago
> And what do you mean by 'Windows Phone 7 is not market ready, and it's already mid-October' ? I'm not sure what the OP meant by that, but here are some guesses: 1. If your friend emails you his address and you want to see the Bing Map to the location, you have to find a pen and paper to write it down. Then you have to open the Maps application and manually type it in. This is because there's no copy+paste. 2. The web browser is IE7 + bits of IE8. This means very slow JavaScript, no HTML5, and a MS-locked-in web experience. 3. App developers cannot use sockets to access the internet, so most cool apps will be near-impossible to develop.
- recoiledsnake 16y ago
  1 is patently false. See here http://www.mykindofphone.com/bring-on-bing-for-windows-phone-7 http://www.mykindofphone.com/bring-on-bing-for-windows-phone... >For example, if someone sends you an address in an email, the phone will pick that up and turn it into a link. Click on that and you are in Bing maps Also, Copy paste in coming at the beginning of next year. 2. JavaScript is fast enough. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgvphQx9MY8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgvphQx9MY8 There's no HTML5 though but I fail to see how it creates a 'MS locked-in web experience'.
  - btilly 16y ago
    The "no HTML5" is a biggie. A lot of websites have come to rely on having WebKit based browsers on smart phones, and so their mobile content uses HTML5 features that Windows Phone 7 does not support. So you have to fall back to a really crappy experience.
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steveklabnik 16y ago

Doesn't Entertainment and Devices also include the Mac Business Unit, as well? Yep, apparently, it does: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_Business_Unit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_Business_Unit

contextfree 16y ago
They moved/are moving (not sure if it happened yet) Mac Office into the regular Office division, FYI. I guess it's probably not yet reflected in earnings statements.

cryptoz 16y ago

> And what do you mean by 'Windows Phone 7 is not market ready, and it's already mid-October' ? I'm not sure what the OP meant by that, but here are some guesses: 1. If your friend emails you his address and you want to see the Bing Map to the location, you have to find a pen and paper to write it down. Then you have to open the Maps application and manually type it in. This is because there's no copy+paste. 2. The web browser is IE7 + bits of IE8. This means very slow JavaScript, no HTML5, and a MS-locked-in web experience. 3. App developers cannot use sockets to access the internet, so most cool apps will be near-impossible to develop.

recoiledsnake 16y ago
1 is patently false. See here http://www.mykindofphone.com/bring-on-bing-for-windows-phone-7 http://www.mykindofphone.com/bring-on-bing-for-windows-phone... >For example, if someone sends you an address in an email, the phone will pick that up and turn it into a link. Click on that and you are in Bing maps Also, Copy paste in coming at the beginning of next year. 2. JavaScript is fast enough. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgvphQx9MY8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgvphQx9MY8 There's no HTML5 though but I fail to see how it creates a 'MS locked-in web experience'.
- btilly 16y ago
  The "no HTML5" is a biggie. A lot of websites have come to rely on having WebKit based browsers on smart phones, and so their mobile content uses HTML5 features that Windows Phone 7 does not support. So you have to fall back to a really crappy experience.

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