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Can anyone expliain why G Suite (the paid version of Gmail) is not considered safe for data privacy? From the site it says they are encrypted, regularly audited

by tkim90 8y ago

Can anyone expliain why G Suite (the paid version of Gmail) is not considered safe for data privacy? From the site it says they are encrypted, regularly audited by 3rd parties and not used for ads. https://gsuite.google.com/faq/security/ https://gsuite.google.com/faq/security/

Froyoh 8y ago
It is safe, everyone here seems to hate on Google products and Microsoft's Windows 10
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lmedinas 8y ago
copy & paste from that link: " This encryption happens as it is written to disk, without the customer having to take any action. Google encrypts data with distinct encryption keys, even if they belong to the same customer. Data is encrypted using 128-bit or stronger Advanced Encryption Standard (AES). Google encrypts core G Suite data while it is “in transit” as well, whether it is traveling over the Internet between the customer and Google, or moving within Google as it shifts from one data center to another. We encrypt this data between Google and our customers using HTTPS with forward secrecy. " The truth nobody knows but it seems that they encrypt with their own keys so that means they can open the data and read it.
sigfubar 8y ago
G Suite isn't private because Google isn't in the privacy or productivity business. It's an advertising company that happens to have a product line which looks like a productivity suite. Charging money for it is just a nifty way to defray the costs of collecting data for advertising purposes.
- techntoke 8y ago
  You should file a False Claims Act then since they are FedRAMP verified for G Suite, unless you're just blowing smoke out of your ass.
- eximius 8y ago
  I know hedge funds that use Gsuite. Pretty sure their legal team would eat Google alive if they found out Google was wantonly reading their documents.
  - r0fl 8y ago
    Don’t be so sure, google has a strong legal team and more cash for litigation than any hedge fund
    - tcbawo 8y ago
      Is the threat of a whistleblower witness during such litigation enough to keep them honest?
    - eximius 8y ago
      That's a silly argument for a couple of reasons. For one, it's just a bad business decision, opening yourself up to an incredible legal liability for relatively little benefit. For another, just because they have more funds and a larger legal team doesn't mean they can devote the same quantity of resources to that specific case. Google is huge and might have resources dedicated to legal ~100x more than any other single entity, but if Google is party to ~1000x more cases than the other party, they'll still have a tough time matching resources.

by tkim90 8y ago

Froyoh 8y ago

It is safe, everyone here seems to hate on Google products and Microsoft's Windows 10

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lmedinas 8y ago

copy & paste from that link: " This encryption happens as it is written to disk, without the customer having to take any action. Google encrypts data with distinct encryption keys, even if they belong to the same customer. Data is encrypted using 128-bit or stronger Advanced Encryption Standard (AES). Google encrypts core G Suite data while it is “in transit” as well, whether it is traveling over the Internet between the customer and Google, or moving within Google as it shifts from one data center to another. We encrypt this data between Google and our customers using HTTPS with forward secrecy. " The truth nobody knows but it seems that they encrypt with their own keys so that means they can open the data and read it.

sigfubar 8y ago

G Suite isn't private because Google isn't in the privacy or productivity business. It's an advertising company that happens to have a product line which looks like a productivity suite. Charging money for it is just a nifty way to defray the costs of collecting data for advertising purposes.

techntoke 8y ago
You should file a False Claims Act then since they are FedRAMP verified for G Suite, unless you're just blowing smoke out of your ass.
eximius 8y ago
I know hedge funds that use Gsuite. Pretty sure their legal team would eat Google alive if they found out Google was wantonly reading their documents.
- r0fl 8y ago
  Don’t be so sure, google has a strong legal team and more cash for litigation than any hedge fund
  - tcbawo 8y ago
    Is the threat of a whistleblower witness during such litigation enough to keep them honest?
  - eximius 8y ago
    That's a silly argument for a couple of reasons. For one, it's just a bad business decision, opening yourself up to an incredible legal liability for relatively little benefit. For another, just because they have more funds and a larger legal team doesn't mean they can devote the same quantity of resources to that specific case. Google is huge and might have resources dedicated to legal ~100x more than any other single entity, but if Google is party to ~1000x more cases than the other party, they'll still have a tough time matching resources.