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But there is a wikipedia article for gun rights, or at least a separately titled one that is redirected from gun rights: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to

by auto 8y ago

But there is a wikipedia article for gun rights, or at least a separately titled one that is redirected from gun rights: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_keep_and_bear_arms https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_keep_and_bear_arms Why wouldn't that get autofilled on the front page of the search results instead?

sct202 8y ago
And right under that there is a suggested link for "Right to keep and bear arms." What is most likely happening is that the Gun Control page is more popular than the Right to keep and bear arms page, so the algo picked that one for the single card that they load. IDK what they use for ranking, but I would imagine that the fact that 'gun' appears in the title of one and not the other is impacting the matching and also the Gun Control page is much longer so it probably seems like a higher quality page versus the other one.
- llampx 8y ago
  You don't seriously believe that, do you? Google has an agenda. They don't hire lobbyists on K street to fight for more neutral search results.
  - lolc 8y ago
    Having the word "gun" in the title explains why the "gun control" page is listed first. Positing Google does it because they have an agenda besides showing relevant results fails the law of parsimony here. Please explain how Google implements its agenda into the search results people see before mocking other people's statements.
    - partiallypro 8y ago
      It may not be "on purpose," but it is happening. Creators of algorithms inherently assign their own biases. http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2015/12/why_google_search_results_favor_democrats.html http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2015/1... http://www.pnas.org/content/112/33/E4512 http://www.pnas.org/content/112/33/E4512 Also note that the top "organic" result on Google's search for "Gun Rights" is just a tag page from NPR. There is no way that's a relevant result. So even if it's not on purpose, it's a very poor result...and given it stands out more so than other keyword searches it seems a bit odd. Edit: down voted for citing study from the National Academy of Sciences, bubbles certainly are thick.
  - antsar 8y ago
    Can't both be true? • "Google has an agenda. They don't hire lobbyists on K street to fight for more neutral search results." • In this case, "the fact that 'gun' appears in the title of one and not the other is impacting the matching and also the Gun Control page is much longer so it probably seems like a higher quality page versus the other one"
  - dagenix 8y ago
    Google's agenda is to make money. Hinting that they have a secret agenda to take away people's guns is just unsubstantiated conspiracy theory nonsense.

by auto 8y ago

sct202 8y ago

And right under that there is a suggested link for "Right to keep and bear arms." What is most likely happening is that the Gun Control page is more popular than the Right to keep and bear arms page, so the algo picked that one for the single card that they load. IDK what they use for ranking, but I would imagine that the fact that 'gun' appears in the title of one and not the other is impacting the matching and also the Gun Control page is much longer so it probably seems like a higher quality page versus the other one.

llampx 8y ago
You don't seriously believe that, do you? Google has an agenda. They don't hire lobbyists on K street to fight for more neutral search results.
- lolc 8y ago
  Having the word "gun" in the title explains why the "gun control" page is listed first. Positing Google does it because they have an agenda besides showing relevant results fails the law of parsimony here. Please explain how Google implements its agenda into the search results people see before mocking other people's statements.
  - partiallypro 8y ago
    It may not be "on purpose," but it is happening. Creators of algorithms inherently assign their own biases. http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2015/12/why_google_search_results_favor_democrats.html http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2015/1... http://www.pnas.org/content/112/33/E4512 http://www.pnas.org/content/112/33/E4512 Also note that the top "organic" result on Google's search for "Gun Rights" is just a tag page from NPR. There is no way that's a relevant result. So even if it's not on purpose, it's a very poor result...and given it stands out more so than other keyword searches it seems a bit odd. Edit: down voted for citing study from the National Academy of Sciences, bubbles certainly are thick.
- antsar 8y ago
  Can't both be true? • "Google has an agenda. They don't hire lobbyists on K street to fight for more neutral search results." • In this case, "the fact that 'gun' appears in the title of one and not the other is impacting the matching and also the Gun Control page is much longer so it probably seems like a higher quality page versus the other one"
- dagenix 8y ago
  Google's agenda is to make money. Hinting that they have a secret agenda to take away people's guns is just unsubstantiated conspiracy theory nonsense.