> blanket assertion that moderate drinking with no ill effect is available to anyone. For me if you have ill effects it is no longer moderate drinking. Note th

> blanket assertion that moderate drinking with no ill effect is available to anyone. For me if you have ill effects it is no longer moderate drinking. Note that I am talking about short-term effects such as having an hangover, not the long-term issues that are the topic of the "good" amount in the article. For sure according to my definition for some people such a level may be zero, and in that case they should refrain from drinking, but the person I replied too talked about "a few pints of beer" at a time, not exactly a minimal amount.