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I'm not clear why it matters that it's not available for iOS? All iOS browsers must use WebKit which is what's Chrome's Blink engine is based on and what all br

by mythz 8y ago

I'm not clear why it matters that it's not available for iOS? All iOS browsers must use WebKit which is what's Chrome's Blink engine is based on and what all browsers mentioned above use. A mobile browser is a completely different Application then a Desktop browser so you're still going to be using a different "Browser" Application, so I guess I don't understand why my choice for using the built-in Safari on iOS would impact which Desktop browser I'd choose to use?

partiallypro 8y ago
Because the focus on decoupling from Google, etc is to prevent control of larger corporations and from data intrusion. Mobile is a huge facet of search/browsing now. If you are only decoupling 50% of web usage, you aren't making much of a dent on the behemoths to change their behavior.
- mythz 8y ago
  Then I really don't get it, Safari is the most dominant browser on iOS and on Android you can use whatever you want - so you never have to use Chrome anywhere.
  - partiallypro 8y ago
    I'm not sure what you don't get. It's not just about Chrome. Decoupling Google services from Chromium is more than about Chrome itself, it's a backlash against Google and data collection at large. You could just promote Firefox instead of Vivaldi, but you didn't. Why not? I assume because you like choice...and that choice should continue to extend on mobile platforms.
    - mythz 8y ago
      > I'm not sure what you don't get. Because you're not clear on what exactly your grievances are with Vivalidi/Brave/Opera using the Blink rendering engine and how exactly does using Safari on iOS or Firefox on Android enforce Google data collection? > It's not just about Chrome. Decoupling Google services from Chromium is more than about Chrome itself, it's a backlash against Google and data collection at large. You need to read up on what Chromium is, its an Open Source Chromium browser Chrome is built on without Google Services (i.e. what Chrome is). A large differentiator for Vivaldi and Brave is their privacy first browsers that don't track you: https://vivaldi.com/features/privacy-security/ https://vivaldi.com/features/privacy-security/ https://brave.com/features/ https://brave.com/features/ > You could just promote Firefox instead of Vivaldi, but you didn't. Why not? Because the whole premise of the article is for making a modified Chromium browser fork, when they could instead use one of the existing actively developed Chromium browsers founded by browser engineers. I have no issue with Firefox which I use as my secondary browser, but the replacement for my main browser Chrome would need to be another Blink-based browser. But I still have no idea what the rendering engine used in Mobile browsers has to do with anything. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_(web_browser) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_(web_browser)
      - partiallypro 8y ago
        If you don't understand what I'm trying to say after 5 or so replies, I don't think I'll ever be able to communicate it.

by mythz 8y ago

partiallypro 8y ago

Because the focus on decoupling from Google, etc is to prevent control of larger corporations and from data intrusion. Mobile is a huge facet of search/browsing now. If you are only decoupling 50% of web usage, you aren't making much of a dent on the behemoths to change their behavior.

mythz 8y ago
Then I really don't get it, Safari is the most dominant browser on iOS and on Android you can use whatever you want - so you never have to use Chrome anywhere.
- partiallypro 8y ago
  I'm not sure what you don't get. It's not just about Chrome. Decoupling Google services from Chromium is more than about Chrome itself, it's a backlash against Google and data collection at large. You could just promote Firefox instead of Vivaldi, but you didn't. Why not? I assume because you like choice...and that choice should continue to extend on mobile platforms.
  - mythz 8y ago
    > I'm not sure what you don't get. Because you're not clear on what exactly your grievances are with Vivalidi/Brave/Opera using the Blink rendering engine and how exactly does using Safari on iOS or Firefox on Android enforce Google data collection? > It's not just about Chrome. Decoupling Google services from Chromium is more than about Chrome itself, it's a backlash against Google and data collection at large. You need to read up on what Chromium is, its an Open Source Chromium browser Chrome is built on without Google Services (i.e. what Chrome is). A large differentiator for Vivaldi and Brave is their privacy first browsers that don't track you: https://vivaldi.com/features/privacy-security/ https://vivaldi.com/features/privacy-security/ https://brave.com/features/ https://brave.com/features/ > You could just promote Firefox instead of Vivaldi, but you didn't. Why not? Because the whole premise of the article is for making a modified Chromium browser fork, when they could instead use one of the existing actively developed Chromium browsers founded by browser engineers. I have no issue with Firefox which I use as my secondary browser, but the replacement for my main browser Chrome would need to be another Blink-based browser. But I still have no idea what the rendering engine used in Mobile browsers has to do with anything. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_(web_browser) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_(web_browser)
    - partiallypro 8y ago
      If you don't understand what I'm trying to say after 5 or so replies, I don't think I'll ever be able to communicate it.