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AMP was what did it for me.

by qrbLPHiKpiux 8y ago

JoshMnem 8y ago
Same here. AMP and the current move to get rid of URLs were the last straw.
- reticulan 8y ago
  What do you mean by get rid of urls? I just have missed it
  - JoshMnem 8y ago
    https://www.wired.com/story/google-wants-to-kill-the-url/ https://www.wired.com/story/google-wants-to-kill-the-url/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/09/07/google_kills_www/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/09/07/google_kills_www/
RobertRoberts 8y ago
When Gmail came out, I said to people "as long as it stays on gmail.com then they can't use email scraping with your search history. No privacy issues." (or minmal ones) Within a few months of Gmail going public it changed from gmail.com to gmail.google.com or google.com/gmail or some such thing, and I knew instantly they had bamboozled everyone. That was years ago, the rest has been the expected trend.
- hexane360 8y ago
  Why does the front-facing domain have anything to do with what data they can or cannot collect?
  - SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
    Cookies
  - codethief 8y ago
    Because cookies are bound to a domain. So once Gmail moved to google.com/mail, the Gmail cookies started carrying over to the search on google.com, meaning that Google could correlate your search terms with your account.
- magicalhippo 8y ago
  Wasn't that somewhat related to the trademark dispute? The domain gmail.com became unavailable in Germany due to trademark disputes [...] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Gmail#Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Gmail#Germany
  - RobertRoberts 8y ago
    If the Germany trademark issue was relevant to the moving from gmail.com to google.com/whatever is the case, why were we all allowed to have @gmail.com email addresses?
    - whyever 8y ago
      In Germany they used @googlemail.com addresses.
      - RobertRoberts 8y ago
        I know that. I was merely pointing out that if gmail.com was the issue, then having youremail@gmail.com would also be an issue. But since it never has been, the issue in Germany has nothing (based on this simple logic) to do with Google changing the email access from gmail.com to google.com.
- llampx 8y ago
  ... and then they started giving away Google Analytics so every hit on every website could be recorded (by them), and then built Chrome, so that every hit on every website could be recorded (again by them). To think we were so naïve.

AMP was what did it for me.

JoshMnem 8y ago

Same here. AMP and the current move to get rid of URLs were the last straw.

reticulan 8y ago
What do you mean by get rid of urls? I just have missed it
- JoshMnem 8y ago
  https://www.wired.com/story/google-wants-to-kill-the-url/ https://www.wired.com/story/google-wants-to-kill-the-url/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/09/07/google_kills_www/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/09/07/google_kills_www/

RobertRoberts 8y ago

When Gmail came out, I said to people "as long as it stays on gmail.com then they can't use email scraping with your search history. No privacy issues." (or minmal ones) Within a few months of Gmail going public it changed from gmail.com to gmail.google.com or google.com/gmail or some such thing, and I knew instantly they had bamboozled everyone. That was years ago, the rest has been the expected trend.

hexane360 8y ago
Why does the front-facing domain have anything to do with what data they can or cannot collect?
- SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
  Cookies
- codethief 8y ago
  Because cookies are bound to a domain. So once Gmail moved to google.com/mail, the Gmail cookies started carrying over to the search on google.com, meaning that Google could correlate your search terms with your account.
magicalhippo 8y ago
Wasn't that somewhat related to the trademark dispute? The domain gmail.com became unavailable in Germany due to trademark disputes [...] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Gmail#Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Gmail#Germany
- RobertRoberts 8y ago
  If the Germany trademark issue was relevant to the moving from gmail.com to google.com/whatever is the case, why were we all allowed to have @gmail.com email addresses?
  - whyever 8y ago
    In Germany they used @googlemail.com addresses.
    - RobertRoberts 8y ago
      I know that. I was merely pointing out that if gmail.com was the issue, then having youremail@gmail.com would also be an issue. But since it never has been, the issue in Germany has nothing (based on this simple logic) to do with Google changing the email access from gmail.com to google.com.
llampx 8y ago
... and then they started giving away Google Analytics so every hit on every website could be recorded (by them), and then built Chrome, so that every hit on every website could be recorded (again by them). To think we were so naïve.