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> Container tabs are a similarly interesting idea with a weird implementation that requires you to micromanage your tabs, which I certainly don't want to You m

by hcs 8y ago

> Container tabs are a similarly interesting idea with a weird implementation that requires you to micromanage your tabs, which I certainly don't want to You might want to take a look at the Firefox Multi-Account Containers Add-on, it lets you set domains to always open in a given container, which cuts down on the micromanagement a lot once you get it "trained". [edit: This is not well-advertised, it's accessed through the context menu (right-click) on a page when you have it open in that container] https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/ https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/multi-account-conta... > i.e. all web sites should be "contained" It's possible to enable this for most intents and purposes with "1st party isolation", which came from the Tor browser. Some info here: https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/firefox-fpi https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/firefox-fpi

Larrikin 8y ago
My biggest issue with containers is how to properly containerize Google itself. There are so many Google properties that are major parts of the web (many under the Google.com subdomain) that its the only major site I have left to no container by default.
- fencepost 8y ago
  One thing that might help is the DeCentralEyes add on. Basically a local cdn of commonly centralized downloads. https://decentraleyes.org/ https://decentraleyes.org/
atombender 8y ago
I still think that "container tabs" shouldn't need to exist. They fail the "grandma test", for one.
- hcs 8y ago
  Sure. Might be nice to have an adblocker-style filter that says what domains should be considered a single origin, plug that into containers.
  - Too 8y ago
    Container tabs has that feature built in, you can say that google.com and youtube.com always automatically should open in the same container. It's still too difficult and cumbersome to use. I might want to have one tab with gmail signed in but another to make anonymous searches on Google, both are on google domains so i have to manually fiddle with the containers again. Then you click a link in an email or search result and you don't really know if this tab should be in the mail-container, in the default container or in the domain-matched container.
    - hcs 8y ago
      I know that feature is there, I was thinking that there could be a maintained list of domain groups you could subscribe to like filterlists. That way you wouldn't have to wait for a Facebook Container addon and a Google Container addon &c.
- unethical_ban 8y ago
  They're working on native first party isolation, but it breaks authentication via Facebook/Google/other OAuth vendors. It's a tough problem, and I agree the grandma test is a good standard, sometimes it can't be easily done.

by hcs 8y ago

Larrikin 8y ago

My biggest issue with containers is how to properly containerize Google itself. There are so many Google properties that are major parts of the web (many under the Google.com subdomain) that its the only major site I have left to no container by default.

fencepost 8y ago
One thing that might help is the DeCentralEyes add on. Basically a local cdn of commonly centralized downloads. https://decentraleyes.org/ https://decentraleyes.org/

atombender 8y ago

I still think that "container tabs" shouldn't need to exist. They fail the "grandma test", for one.

hcs 8y ago
Sure. Might be nice to have an adblocker-style filter that says what domains should be considered a single origin, plug that into containers.
- Too 8y ago
  Container tabs has that feature built in, you can say that google.com and youtube.com always automatically should open in the same container. It's still too difficult and cumbersome to use. I might want to have one tab with gmail signed in but another to make anonymous searches on Google, both are on google domains so i have to manually fiddle with the containers again. Then you click a link in an email or search result and you don't really know if this tab should be in the mail-container, in the default container or in the domain-matched container.
  - hcs 8y ago
    I know that feature is there, I was thinking that there could be a maintained list of domain groups you could subscribe to like filterlists. That way you wouldn't have to wait for a Facebook Container addon and a Google Container addon &c.
unethical_ban 8y ago
They're working on native first party isolation, but it breaks authentication via Facebook/Google/other OAuth vendors. It's a tough problem, and I agree the grandma test is a good standard, sometimes it can't be easily done.