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You could always switch to Firefox and use something like fastmail or protonmail. Did that a year ago, and actually it works better on mobile imo
by lettergram 8y ago
You could always switch to Firefox and use something like fastmail or protonmail. Did that a year ago, and actually it works better on mobile imo
- rurban 8y agoprotonmail sells your email for profit. I would better recommend fastmail which charges you, but it is still in unsafe legal regulation. You are not safe from the "lawful" dragnet neither.
- zeta0134 8y agoCould you please provide a citation for your first claim that ProtonMail sells your email for profit? Their entire sales pitch heavily revolves around clientside decryption that should in theory prevent this from being possible; I'd very much like to know if this is not the case.
- rurban 8y agoPlenty: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8755492 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8755492 (javascript) https://medium.com/criptext/we-need-a-new-encrypted-email-service-4971c5ee77c5 https://medium.com/criptext/we-need-a-new-encrypted-email-se...
- rcMgD2BwE72F 8y agoCan you quote the part where it says that "protonmail sells your email for profit"?
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- sneak 8y agoSwitching email providers is of little use for privacy from Google when everyone you correspond with is also using Google.
- stonogo 8y agoThis is a contentless argument, which I am tired of seeing parroted. I do business with hundreds of entities that do not use Google infrastructure. I have thousands of contacts whose email headers indicate usage of Exchange servers. It's not about your twelve friends who use GMail, or even your hundred GitHub collaborators who use GMail. It's about the entire rest of the Internet, which is still there, living happily outside your bubble.
- nothrabannosir 8y agoAnd even if it weren't, it's an unconstructive, defeatist style of thinking which does not engender positive change in society, but fosters local maxima. For every person who does not think this way, society is better off.
- yjftsjthsd-h 8y agoAnd if everyone says that, then no one will ever leave.
- sneak 8y agoFalse. I say that (and know it’s true) and I host my personal email elsewhere, knowing that it is a waste of money and an empty gesture.
- lucb1e 8y agoWhat does email have to do with switching browsers? Last I heard Gmail also works on Firefox.
- tajen 8y agoThe reason people switch today is because Google introduced a few days ago an automatic and mandatory login of Chrome when you log in Gmail/any other property.
- grive 8y agoGoogle uses non-standard extensions that only Chrome supports for Gmail and Youtube. For neutral email apps, Firefox runs perfectly fine. For Gmail, it will be slightly slower than Chrome.
- Algent 8y agoIt's infuriating how they slow their stuff on Firefox but send optimized stuff to IE/Edge. Gmail is still okay once past the 2-3s loading but on YT it really test your patience every time you click on something.
- AsyncAwait 8y agoI find the YouTube Classic extension helps with that[1]. P.S. But we should all switch to PeerTube or a similar effort eventually. 1 - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-classic https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-class...
- lucb1e 8y agoOh wow, I did not know that. I guess that's one way to give a few million Gmail users a reason to install Chrome...