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I want to switch to Firefox, but the developer tools simply do not work at all. Every time I try to use the console on the site that I'm working on, the tab fre

by pg_bot 8y ago

I want to switch to Firefox, but the developer tools simply do not work at all. Every time I try to use the console on the site that I'm working on, the tab freezes and everything just stops working. (This immediately happens, not after a period of working and then bugging out) If any representative from Mozilla wants to reach out, I would be glad to help you fix your software because we need better competition in this space. (email is in my profile) Current Firefox version: 63.0b8 OS: mac OS High Sierra (10.13.6 17G65)

rando444 8y ago
You don't need developers to reach out to you, just file a bug report like a normal person. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/
- pg_bot 8y ago
  Have reported there before and have gotten no attention to any issues previously posted. In my experience bugzilla has been a black hole and reaching out via public channels is more effective at influencing change in an organization. I understand that you may think this is uncouth but letting other people know publicly why their product isn't being used is effective.
  - mixmastamyk 8y ago
    Try vacuuming the sqlite files, or make a fresh new profile.
jonathanyc 8y ago
I’ve never seen this happen on any website, ever, and I’ve used the dev console on some pretty insane websites. Come up with minimal steps to reproduce and file a bug like a normal person, like the other comment suggests. People like me use Firefox for their paying job daily and somehow we still don’t find it beneath ourselves to file bugs.
- pg_bot 8y ago
  If I flipped a light switch and the room caught on fire, I hope that your response won't be: "I've never seen this happen before and I've been in some pretty insane buildings" I've never seen anything like it happen on any other website either, but yet here I am. The failure is so stark that I would have no idea where to begin debugging, and would likely need guidance from someone with more knowledge of the system so I wouldn't waste days of my time. I've reported the issue in the past and gotten nowhere so here I am trying in a different avenue.
  - jonathanyc 8y ago
    I actually haven’t been in any buildings where I could plausibly have imagined flipping a light switch causing its containing room to burst into flames, which is why if you had said that flipping the light switch in your office caused it to spontaneously combust I would have reserved judgement. I don’t really follow your non sequitur. You act as if days of your time are somehow worth more than days of some browser engineer’s time. The company I works for makes a decently popular and extremely browser-intensive web application and even we at least do some minimal investigation when we want, say, a Chrome bug to get fixed. If opening dev tools caused Firefox to crash for me you can bet I’d at least try to come up with a minimal STR. I’m sorry to inform you that you are not that special and that your entitlement is not flattering.

by pg_bot 8y ago

rando444 8y ago

You don't need developers to reach out to you, just file a bug report like a normal person. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/

pg_bot 8y ago
Have reported there before and have gotten no attention to any issues previously posted. In my experience bugzilla has been a black hole and reaching out via public channels is more effective at influencing change in an organization. I understand that you may think this is uncouth but letting other people know publicly why their product isn't being used is effective.
- mixmastamyk 8y ago
  Try vacuuming the sqlite files, or make a fresh new profile.

jonathanyc 8y ago

I’ve never seen this happen on any website, ever, and I’ve used the dev console on some pretty insane websites. Come up with minimal steps to reproduce and file a bug like a normal person, like the other comment suggests. People like me use Firefox for their paying job daily and somehow we still don’t find it beneath ourselves to file bugs.

pg_bot 8y ago
If I flipped a light switch and the room caught on fire, I hope that your response won't be: "I've never seen this happen before and I've been in some pretty insane buildings" I've never seen anything like it happen on any other website either, but yet here I am. The failure is so stark that I would have no idea where to begin debugging, and would likely need guidance from someone with more knowledge of the system so I wouldn't waste days of my time. I've reported the issue in the past and gotten nowhere so here I am trying in a different avenue.
- jonathanyc 8y ago
  I actually haven’t been in any buildings where I could plausibly have imagined flipping a light switch causing its containing room to burst into flames, which is why if you had said that flipping the light switch in your office caused it to spontaneously combust I would have reserved judgement. I don’t really follow your non sequitur. You act as if days of your time are somehow worth more than days of some browser engineer’s time. The company I works for makes a decently popular and extremely browser-intensive web application and even we at least do some minimal investigation when we want, say, a Chrome bug to get fixed. If opening dev tools caused Firefox to crash for me you can bet I’d at least try to come up with a minimal STR. I’m sorry to inform you that you are not that special and that your entitlement is not flattering.