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Humans have been making alcohol since prehistory. There are plenty of breweries, distilleries, and vineyards in Europe and Asia that have been continuously acti
by ardfie 8y ago
Humans have been making alcohol since prehistory. There are plenty of breweries, distilleries, and vineyards in Europe and Asia that have been continuously active for centuries.
- negamax 8y agoTrue and it was never mass consumed and celebrated to this extent. Current situation is that despite the facts and knowledge, social pressure makes people drink. Despite the facts. The facts are overwhelming and we shouldn't just keep consuming alcohol because muah cultur. Many alcoholics end up causing traffic accidents and require lots of state support in other ways. Just walk into ED on any Saturday/Friday night. I have done that
- thrower123 8y agoPeople used to be drunk constantly - why do you think 19th century temperance movements were such a cultural force? Alcohol consumption was staggering in the past, to a degree we would consider insane today. Naval everyday rum rations alone would be well above the guidelines of being considered an alcoholic.
- malvosenior 8y agoAlcohol was consumed en mass more than it is now. Little kids would regularly drink. Often alcohol was drank instead of water for sanitation reasons. It's been a huge part of nearly every culture for thousands of years.
- negamax 8y agoIn that case we need to give up on a previous era bad habit as there’s overwhelming evidence that it’s bad
- sebastos 8y agoYou seem somewhat unperturbed that the entire crux of your original argument was faulty... maybe time for an update on your priors? Don't mean to sound unfriendly :)
- negamax 8y agoUnperturbed because I know the endgame on this :). World without alcohol is a better world. The arguments about the past. I can list down counter arguments. But that’s not the point. People often respond with emotions about alcohol consumption. Media brainwashing has done its job well.
- malvosenior 8y ago> World without alcohol is a better world. Not for me. I truly enjoy a good drink with or without friends. It's possible to drink in moderation and enjoy yourself. > Media brainwashing has done its job well. Again, heavy drinking was extremely common well before mass media. I don't think you can pin this particular issue on them.
- negamax 8y agoYou are ignoring the fact that our lifestyles have changed completely. We don’t work in the fields and at mercy of cold
- malvosenior 8y agoHow am I ignoring that? I'm saying I actually like a drink now and then. Honestly, your argument seems all over the place.
- negamax 8y agoI am happy to coherently type my argument. Alcohol consumption in the past was necessity because of cold climate and manual labor. Alcohol is made from ethanol is made from sugarcane and is extremely calories rich. 100 gm beer contains 43 calories. One can contains 154 calories It was quite fine in the past as most of the calories were burned due to harsh living conditions. Fast forward to 21st century. We are hardly exposed to extreme cold. We live in extremely protected environments. From temperature controlled office to car to home. But we haven’t changed our drinking habits to reflect that. Add to that mass media consumption due to profits. We have an epedicmic which can easily be prevented. 5% of all deaths are due to alcohol. Just visit ED of any hospital on Saturday night if you want to see the ills for yourself