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Yeah, speaking out against total censorship [1] and AI drone programs [2] is "shallow and negative". Have you not been following the Google political & moral bl

Yeah, speaking out against total censorship [1] and AI drone programs [2] is "shallow and negative". Have you not been following the Google political & moral blunders lately? Work shouldn't be private governments, work shouldn't be authoritarian. Workers do the work, they deserve a say -- not just the shareholders. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/16/technology/google-employees-protest-search-censored-china.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/16/technology/google-employe... [2] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/05/google-employees-resign-in-protest-of-googlepentagon-drone-program/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/05/google-employees-res...

throwaway8879 8y ago
Yes workers deserve a say, but a say about work-related things. Leave the politics, religion, controversy at home.
- prolikewh0a 8y ago
  I'm not talking about anything else, I'm talking about workers having a say over what they produce in a moral and ethical sense. Without the workers, you don't have a business. >Leave the politics, religion, controversy at home. This only strengthens the authoritarian Private Government argument.
- salawat 8y ago
  You don't get to throw those out and say you're not censoring people. "I'm trying to run a business here," is not an excuse to quash completely acceptable communication between people at work. In fact, if your worker's are incredibly divided on a topic, it may be time to have a good think about it. Not that you should have to. Citizens United was a farce in dire need of being undone. Either way. I get where you are coming from, and agree to a point, but enforcing a schizophrenic divide between personal and work lives isn't a very good answer either, and just creates fear amongst people that keeps them from speaking out when something is genuinely wrong.
  - claydavisss 8y ago
    And the opposite is creating a shadow regime of political enforcers in the office. Once you get the lord your political views over your coworkers, you'll inevitably starting injecting these views into wage reviews etc
claydavisss 8y ago
You speak out by leaving.

throwaway8879 8y ago

Yes workers deserve a say, but a say about work-related things. Leave the politics, religion, controversy at home.

prolikewh0a 8y ago
I'm not talking about anything else, I'm talking about workers having a say over what they produce in a moral and ethical sense. Without the workers, you don't have a business. >Leave the politics, religion, controversy at home. This only strengthens the authoritarian Private Government argument.
salawat 8y ago
You don't get to throw those out and say you're not censoring people. "I'm trying to run a business here," is not an excuse to quash completely acceptable communication between people at work. In fact, if your worker's are incredibly divided on a topic, it may be time to have a good think about it. Not that you should have to. Citizens United was a farce in dire need of being undone. Either way. I get where you are coming from, and agree to a point, but enforcing a schizophrenic divide between personal and work lives isn't a very good answer either, and just creates fear amongst people that keeps them from speaking out when something is genuinely wrong.
- claydavisss 8y ago
  And the opposite is creating a shadow regime of political enforcers in the office. Once you get the lord your political views over your coworkers, you'll inevitably starting injecting these views into wage reviews etc

claydavisss 8y ago

You speak out by leaving.