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You realise that the overwhelming majority of the weight in a rocket is fuel, right? The empty mass of the Saturn V first stage is 130000kg while its gross mass

You realise that the overwhelming majority of the weight in a rocket is fuel, right? The empty mass of the Saturn V first stage is 130000kg while its gross mass is 20 times more. Obviously a rocket designed to go to mars needs to carry much more fuel. The strength of a rocket is given by the lifting force that it can produce and 61.8MN of BFR is almost double the 35MN of Saturn V. And if we look at the second stages the 14MN of BFR are almost triple the 5.1MN of Saturn V. You are not educating at all, you are knowingly and deliberately spreading lies and misinformation. The pure and cold numbers that I posted instead are facts.

computerex 8y ago
Look buddy, you are wrong. No one looks at the thrust values to determine the strength of the rocket besides you. A rocket's job is to haul payload and so the strength of a rocket is determined by how much payload it can haul not max thrust values. As you can clearly see in this case, despite having more thrust the BFR can haul less payload to LEO than the Saturn V. All you did in your last comment is literally repeat what you said earlier. The "pure and cold numbers" you posted shows how ignorant you are about spaceflight. Come up with something original and present an argument for why the thrust is a better and more useful metric for measuring the strength of a rocket than its payload capacity.
- tigershark 8y ago
  It's useless to discuss with you, you are just wasting my time. The numbers are there, the BFR lifting force is almost double Saturn V and the total mass that BFR is bringing in orbit is double the one that Saturn V brought in orbit. Please, continue with your non-sense if you like, I think that it's clear to everyone who is spreading mis-information and ignorance saying the BFR is only slightly more powerful than Saturn V.
  - computerex 8y ago
    I'm not the one spreading nonsense. You are wrong 100% and repeating yourself 3 times isn't going to change that. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BFR_(rocket) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BFR_(rocket) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_V https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_V The number you are looking for is "payload to LEO". For Saturn that number is 310k lbs and for BFR it is 220k lbs. 310k is bigger than 220k.

computerex 8y ago

Look buddy, you are wrong. No one looks at the thrust values to determine the strength of the rocket besides you. A rocket's job is to haul payload and so the strength of a rocket is determined by how much payload it can haul not max thrust values. As you can clearly see in this case, despite having more thrust the BFR can haul less payload to LEO than the Saturn V. All you did in your last comment is literally repeat what you said earlier. The "pure and cold numbers" you posted shows how ignorant you are about spaceflight. Come up with something original and present an argument for why the thrust is a better and more useful metric for measuring the strength of a rocket than its payload capacity.

tigershark 8y ago
It's useless to discuss with you, you are just wasting my time. The numbers are there, the BFR lifting force is almost double Saturn V and the total mass that BFR is bringing in orbit is double the one that Saturn V brought in orbit. Please, continue with your non-sense if you like, I think that it's clear to everyone who is spreading mis-information and ignorance saying the BFR is only slightly more powerful than Saturn V.
- computerex 8y ago
  I'm not the one spreading nonsense. You are wrong 100% and repeating yourself 3 times isn't going to change that. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BFR_(rocket) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BFR_(rocket) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_V https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_V The number you are looking for is "payload to LEO". For Saturn that number is 310k lbs and for BFR it is 220k lbs. 310k is bigger than 220k.