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You sure about that? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/marine-le-pen-isis-twitter-execution-videos-charged-france-front-national-fn-leader-a82344

You sure about that? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/marine-le-pen-isis-twitter-execution-videos-charged-france-front-national-fn-leader-a8234486.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/marine-le-pe... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial#Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial#... -- because apparently if we outlaw Nazi symbolism it will disappear. France is even more awesome: Gayssot Act makes it illegal to question the existence of crimes against humanity as defined in the London Charter. Let that sink in - it is illegal to question.

hef19898 8y ago
So, same logic as above for the holocaust. Once it is established that a certain crimw against humanity happen that cannot be denied. Free speech, i my own European way of thinking, has to protected against propaganda. Which the French do, apparently.
- notyourday 8y ago
  It is all in the eye of the beholder: see the Mari Le Pen charges. But I'm sure it is fantastic to pretend that it is done not for maintenance of the status quo but for some other, much more glorious reasons.
  - hef19898 8y ago
    And what reason woulf that be? I thought about all that, and where it might seem that European law has the tendency to limit free speech in certain fields (that don't really matter in everday life and if they do for an individual it tells a lot). On the other hand there is nothing comparable to, say, the Patriot Act. So the individual privacy and rights are, it seems, more protected than in the US. But I'm diverting, the starting was a comment stating that the US are having superiour rights in that regard in general. Which is, IMHO, not true and to generalized without concrete examples. Now we do have examples and everbody can make up their own mind.

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You sure about that? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/marine-le-pen-isis-twitter-execution-videos-charged-france-front-national-fn-leader-a82344

by notyourday 8y ago

hef19898 8y ago
So, same logic as above for the holocaust. Once it is established that a certain crimw against humanity happen that cannot be denied. Free speech, i my own European way of thinking, has to protected against propaganda. Which the French do, apparently.
- notyourday 8y ago
  It is all in the eye of the beholder: see the Mari Le Pen charges. But I'm sure it is fantastic to pretend that it is done not for maintenance of the status quo but for some other, much more glorious reasons.
  - hef19898 8y ago
    And what reason woulf that be? I thought about all that, and where it might seem that European law has the tendency to limit free speech in certain fields (that don't really matter in everday life and if they do for an individual it tells a lot). On the other hand there is nothing comparable to, say, the Patriot Act. So the individual privacy and rights are, it seems, more protected than in the US. But I'm diverting, the starting was a comment stating that the US are having superiour rights in that regard in general. Which is, IMHO, not true and to generalized without concrete examples. Now we do have examples and everbody can make up their own mind.