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Murdered body found after tree ‘unusual for the area’ grew from seed in stomach
- chrisper 8y agoWhy did you remove the quotes in the title? Makes it super hard to read and understand.
- jsnell 8y agoTitles can be at most 80 characters long, and this one is currently right at the limit. Given the number of small changes, clearly the submitter was cutting everything they could to get to 80 characters :) If you can suggest a rewrite, maybe the mods will change the title.
- hyperpape 8y agoMurdered man found when non-local tree grew from seed in his stomach ("non-local" is admittedly a bit funny sounding. Alternatives: "non-native tree", "unusual tree", "unexpected tree").
- SimeVidas 8y ago“Murder victim discovered after giving birth to unusual tree”
- BonesJustice 8y agoThat’s some irresistible clickbait right there. Bravo!
- adrianmonk 8y ago"Course of murder investigation follows unusual root."
- ebullientocelot 8y agoOut Of Place Tree Leads Researcher To Find Murder Victim He was blown up by dynamite.. not super clear that his stomach was all that intact.
- close04 8y agoHe wasn't necessarily blown apart by the explosion, although that would have given the seed the highest chance of surviving (instead of slowly disintegrating inside the stomach). The shockwave inside a cave can be a pretty deadly thing even if you are behind cover. He could even have been killed by something as minute as a ruptured blood vessel in the brain.
- sctb 8y agoOK, we've updated it from “Murder body found after tree unusual for the area grew from seed in his stomach”.
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- JoeDaDude 8y agoFor a small price, we can all donate our remains such that they feed a growing tree: https://www.thelivingurn.com/ https://www.thelivingurn.com/
- miles 8y agoWhy the intermediate step of cremation? https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/22/smarter-living/green-funeral-burial-environment.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/22/smarter-living/green-fune... > Here is what Americans put in the ground each year through traditional burials: 20 million feet of wood, 4.3 million gallons of embalming fluids, 1.6 million tons of reinforced concrete, 17,000 tons of copper and bronze, and 64,500 tons of steel, according to the Green Burial Council. > Green burials eliminate much of this waste by leaving out almost all of those materials; most bodies are simply wrapped in shrouds made from a biodegradable material like cotton and placed in the ground. And although cremations often have the reputation as being an eco-friendly option, they tend to have an outsize carbon footprint. The article goes on to mention http://www.letyourlovegrow.com/ http://www.letyourlovegrow.com/ , which sounds similar to The Living Urn, and http://www.eternalreefs.com/ http://www.eternalreefs.com/ , "which hold cremated remains in an underwater cement ball and create new marine habitats for fish and other sea life."
- dorfsmay 8y agoWhy do they use cremated bodies? Doesn't cremating have an impact on the environment? And doesn't it destroy a lot of the nutrient from the body? Been looking for something similar, but where they just use the body as is.
- mistrial9 8y agofor the mythologically less-developed, this literal scenario is in a similar configuration to certain deep-mystery tales from various cultures and epochs. spoiler: personal inquiry on this and other symbolic content may vary substantially, require a lot of time, and lead to odd ideas in ordinary life
- loa-in-backup 8y agoHow is this a really unusual occurrence? I thought this was HN
- dewey 8y agoIf nobody would find it interesting it wouldn’t be on the front page.
- leroy_masochist 8y agoWas a bit disappointed that the article didn't have a picture of the actual tree.
- jonsen 8y agoDo you have a stomach for it?
- matthoiland 8y agoThis has the seeds of a good thread.
- martin-adams 8y agoIt is definitely ground breaking news
- roryisok 8y agoReminds me of a local story - a 200 year old tree fell in a storm and pulled up a 1000 year old murder victim as the roots had grown through his corpse
- umvi 8y agoAnd how the heck can they determine a 1000 year old skeleton is a murder victim?
- dharmon 8y agoNot sure if you are asking in earnest, but bone damage from a knife would suggest the skeleton was from a murder victim. They can tell skeletons significantly older than 1000 years were from someone, for example, killed by a tiger, due to teeth marks on bones.
- dvlsg 8y agoSaw an interesting viking museum in Norway that had a skeleton of a man who had his leg shorn off by an axe in battle. That one may be a bit more obvious I suppose, but I suspect there's a ton you can learn from just a set of bones.
- chadcmulligan 8y agoYou could probably make a tv show about that, maybe call it bones :-)
- lnsp 8y agoMost likely bone fractures and similar signs should still be visible.
- roryisok 8y agoBlade markings on the bones, rib cage I believe. They were also able to say the victim was 17-20 years old
- tehlike 8y agoLife finds its way. One dies, another takes its place. Rip.
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- artur_makly 8y agoThis reminds me of this brilliant startup: https://www.capsulamundi.it/en/ https://www.capsulamundi.it/en/ The copywriting is hysterical: "I love you grandma!" "Wow how've big you've grown!"
- chrisacky 8y agoThe headline sounds like the plot from Speaker for Dead (Orson Scott from Ender's series).
- muxator 8y agoThought the same!
- pvaldes 8y agoI find a strange certainty in the stomach theory repeated all around the article. Why in the stomach? How can they discard that the fig was in a pocket or a bag or was just planted by somebody later to mark the area?
- rm2040 8y agoGood point. It's more fascinating though to connect this tree, which is still living, with this long-dead man whether it's true or not.
- nyc111 8y agoI agree. This sounds like a publicity ploy. According to Wikipedia "Ficus carica is dispersed by birds and mammals that scatter their seeds in droppings." How do they know that the seed was not brought there by a bird? Did they check the age of the tree? Does it match the date of the incident? I wrote to CMP http://www.cmp-cyprus.org/ http://www.cmp-cyprus.org/ let's if they answer. I could not find a press release on their site about this subject.
- elchief 8y agoSo the hack is, carry packet of obscure tree seeds in your pocket if you think you're gonna get murdered
- swingline-747 8y agoAlmost the plot of "The Fountain." Sadly, the tree didn't fly in space.
- aaron695 8y agoThis story is of course bullshit. Why do people believe the fake news bullshit? It screams of bullshit. I really really don't get people. I get the media, this fake story = money. But do people not know how to understand the simple world around them? https://cyprus-mail.com/2018/09/23/did-a-fig-tree-grow-out-of-the-remains-of-a-turkish-cypriot-man-missing-since-1974/ https://cyprus-mail.com/2018/09/23/did-a-fig-tree-grow-out-o...
- anon49124 8y agoSo carrying crappy weed might be good if you think you're gonna get Maxwell's Silver Hammer. Good to know.
- nyc111 8y agoWhat a sloppy reporting! Most pictures do not have captions. They are not even related to this case. They are stock photos from the CMP lab. The caption under the first photo is made up "Remains and samples which were found at the scene where Ahmet Hergune was killed" (none of the other sources use this caption). The guy's last name is "Hergüner" not "Hergüne". Münür is his brother not his sister.