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It's funny, because in the meantime SpaceX has literally gone to orbit. I'd bet they're going to be on their way to commercial moon landings before waymo releas

It's funny, because in the meantime SpaceX has literally gone to orbit. I'd bet they're going to be on their way to commercial moon landings before waymo releases a generally available product of any kind. It's not that Waymo is not original, it's that there's no gradual deployment. It's "We're going to keep it in the lab until it's perfect" project which is exactly the problem. Even in this regard Elon via Tesla is beating them at that, by deploying as many self-driving features as the risk-reward calculus allows. That's what I was trying to express, perhaps poorly, in my original post.

lawrenceyan 8y ago
No offense to the AutoPilot team at all, and I think Andrej Karpathy is a really smart guy who can probably do some great stuff for the company in the coming years, but Tesla and Waymo are in different leagues when it comes to self driving. If you’re looking for a real upstart company that legitimately has a chance at going head to head with Waymo, you should be looking at companies like Cruise Automation not Tesla. Because though Tesla is a great car company with an even better brand name that I’m sure will carry it very far, one thing it is not currently, is a self driving car company. Perhaps this will change in the future. For now, Tesla has other problems to deal with and focus on.
hef19898 8y ago
Because moon landings can be done with tech from the 60s with less computing power than an iPhone. Getting autonomous cars on the streets is an order of magnitude more complex. And isn't execution much more important than just having an idea?
mrep 8y ago
> It's "We're going to keep it in the lab until it's perfect" project which is exactly the problem. That doesn't seem to match what I am seeing. They are giving out rides in phoenix arizona already and plan to fully launch there by end of year. They have also officially ordered 62,000 chrysler pacificas and 20,000 jaguar SUVs to scale out their service in the coming years.
Jyaif 8y ago
The "We're going to keep it in the lab until it's perfect" approach is because (unlike spaceX) if they fuck up people will die.

lawrenceyan 8y ago

No offense to the AutoPilot team at all, and I think Andrej Karpathy is a really smart guy who can probably do some great stuff for the company in the coming years, but Tesla and Waymo are in different leagues when it comes to self driving. If you’re looking for a real upstart company that legitimately has a chance at going head to head with Waymo, you should be looking at companies like Cruise Automation not Tesla. Because though Tesla is a great car company with an even better brand name that I’m sure will carry it very far, one thing it is not currently, is a self driving car company. Perhaps this will change in the future. For now, Tesla has other problems to deal with and focus on.

hef19898 8y ago

Because moon landings can be done with tech from the 60s with less computing power than an iPhone. Getting autonomous cars on the streets is an order of magnitude more complex. And isn't execution much more important than just having an idea?

mrep 8y ago

> It's "We're going to keep it in the lab until it's perfect" project which is exactly the problem. That doesn't seem to match what I am seeing. They are giving out rides in phoenix arizona already and plan to fully launch there by end of year. They have also officially ordered 62,000 chrysler pacificas and 20,000 jaguar SUVs to scale out their service in the coming years.

Jyaif 8y ago

The "We're going to keep it in the lab until it's perfect" approach is because (unlike spaceX) if they fuck up people will die.