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What's the tl;dr?

Tomte 8y ago
The tl;dr is: you move on to the next submission. Seriously, why do people brag about "I don't want to skim a medium-length article"? I don't read many articles, too, but I wouldn't go around announcing it to the world and demanding a wrong because too short summary.
- ur-whale 8y ago
  >I don't want to skim a medium-length article When you're the first half of your life, a part of your brain is secretly convinced that you're immortal and that you therefore have all the time in the world. With that state of mind, reading random articles in depth seems like no big deal. At a certain point (around your mid-30's, usually), a switch flips in your head and you start to realize your time is very much finite. This is when TL;DR's start to matter a great deal because they help you decide where and how much of your time to invest in random new things. I don't presume to make a solid guess which part of your life you're in, but I'd say your comment just tilted the odds towards the first half.
  - Tomte 8y ago
    Skimming the article for "what is this?" doesn't take more a minute or two. The first paragraph suffices, if you want to know a bit more, read up to the table of contents. And you have your tl;dr, without posting it in every thread. I would be more understanding if the article were convoluted, or if it were a video. But this is text, easily understood (not "in the category of endofunctors" nonsense), and people still parade around their unwillingness to click on the submission. I find that offensive. Triaging submissions into "interests me" and "does not interest" me is something you should be able to do without outside help, in the usual case.
  - gdy 8y ago
    And your solution is to ask someone in the first half of their life to spend time writing a tldr for you? This is so funny when people procrastinating on hn write how valuable their time is.
Pamar 8y ago
An old, Russian set of heuristics to think out of the box and try to solve engineering design problems. Emphasis was on physycal design (i.e. not software) despite some attempts to port the idea to other domains. While popular in Russia (but then at the time it was difficult to understand how much "popular/effective" it really was) it did not seem to get more traction elsewhere.
- baybal2 8y ago
  >it did not seem to get more traction elsewhere. Samsung, Goldstar and other Korean cos are on the train. In Samsung, you actually have to get a TRIZ certificate as a prerequisite for promotion above a certain level in their engineering units.
  - vtail 8y ago
    Comment like yours is why I come to HN! Thank you - I was always interested in TRIZ (I’m from Russia originally) but didn’t know it to be applied anywhere outside of Russia. Out of curiosity, how did you learn about this? Quick ddg’ing found this Forbes article on how Samsung uses TRIZ: https://www.forbes.com/sites/haydnshaughnessy/2013/03/07/why-is-samsung-such-an-innovative-company/#8a837fe2ad7e https://www.forbes.com/sites/haydnshaughnessy/2013/03/07/why... They also mentioned that Intel might be using it, too.
    - baybal2 8y ago
      I had few years of high school in Russia in a school with some degree of engineering orientation. About TRIZ in Samsung and Korean cos, I learned that from Samsung pals I met. I've been all across Asia during the time when OEM electronics was booming: Vietnam, Taiwan, China, Singapore, SK, you name it.
      - ommunist 8y ago
        Yup, Khomenko, if memory serves, started to train Samsung engineers in the middle of the 90-ies using TRIZ.

What's the tl;dr?

The tl;dr is: you move on to the next submission. Seriously, why do people brag about "I don't want to skim a medium-length article"? I don't read many articles, too, but I wouldn't go around announcing it to the world and demanding a wrong because too short summary.

ur-whale 8y ago
>I don't want to skim a medium-length article When you're the first half of your life, a part of your brain is secretly convinced that you're immortal and that you therefore have all the time in the world. With that state of mind, reading random articles in depth seems like no big deal. At a certain point (around your mid-30's, usually), a switch flips in your head and you start to realize your time is very much finite. This is when TL;DR's start to matter a great deal because they help you decide where and how much of your time to invest in random new things. I don't presume to make a solid guess which part of your life you're in, but I'd say your comment just tilted the odds towards the first half.
- Tomte 8y ago
  Skimming the article for "what is this?" doesn't take more a minute or two. The first paragraph suffices, if you want to know a bit more, read up to the table of contents. And you have your tl;dr, without posting it in every thread. I would be more understanding if the article were convoluted, or if it were a video. But this is text, easily understood (not "in the category of endofunctors" nonsense), and people still parade around their unwillingness to click on the submission. I find that offensive. Triaging submissions into "interests me" and "does not interest" me is something you should be able to do without outside help, in the usual case.
- gdy 8y ago
  And your solution is to ask someone in the first half of their life to spend time writing a tldr for you? This is so funny when people procrastinating on hn write how valuable their time is.

Pamar 8y ago

An old, Russian set of heuristics to think out of the box and try to solve engineering design problems. Emphasis was on physycal design (i.e. not software) despite some attempts to port the idea to other domains. While popular in Russia (but then at the time it was difficult to understand how much "popular/effective" it really was) it did not seem to get more traction elsewhere.

baybal2 8y ago
>it did not seem to get more traction elsewhere. Samsung, Goldstar and other Korean cos are on the train. In Samsung, you actually have to get a TRIZ certificate as a prerequisite for promotion above a certain level in their engineering units.
- vtail 8y ago
  Comment like yours is why I come to HN! Thank you - I was always interested in TRIZ (I’m from Russia originally) but didn’t know it to be applied anywhere outside of Russia. Out of curiosity, how did you learn about this? Quick ddg’ing found this Forbes article on how Samsung uses TRIZ: https://www.forbes.com/sites/haydnshaughnessy/2013/03/07/why-is-samsung-such-an-innovative-company/#8a837fe2ad7e https://www.forbes.com/sites/haydnshaughnessy/2013/03/07/why... They also mentioned that Intel might be using it, too.
  - baybal2 8y ago
    I had few years of high school in Russia in a school with some degree of engineering orientation. About TRIZ in Samsung and Korean cos, I learned that from Samsung pals I met. I've been all across Asia during the time when OEM electronics was booming: Vietnam, Taiwan, China, Singapore, SK, you name it.
    - ommunist 8y ago
      Yup, Khomenko, if memory serves, started to train Samsung engineers in the middle of the 90-ies using TRIZ.