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Where's your proof?

JoshCole 8y ago
You can find videos documenting these things on the spacex website in the presentation that was given announcing the first commercial trip around the moon. You can also find videos documenting the firing of the engine in earlier tests years back in videos introducing the BFR and ITS. Also, since you seem extremely ignorant of SpaceX, I also recommend you watch videos documenting the landing of the two boosters of Falcon Heavy, so that you might better understand the sense of optimism which the company's accomplishments have generated. It is, to put it lightly, incredibly inspiring.
- computerex 8y ago
  If you're talking about this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu7WJD8vpAQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu7WJD8vpAQ Then you're proving my point that the rocket doesn't exist outside of CGI. Musk himself said that they haven't even built out the prototype fairings yet. The engine has been fired for 1200 seconds as per Wikipedia but I can't find a source for it. Also, this isn't technical documentation, it's the sort of thing that'd impress people ignorant about the complexities of spaceflight. You are wrong that I am ignorant of SpaceX. I watched the landing of the Falcon Heavy boosters and even saw the core crash into the ocean on the day of the test launch. Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to be a debbie downer. However, I am a skeptic and Musk continues to over promise and under deliver across all of his ventures. He continuously makes promises he won't be able to fulfill. Like this one: "We will make one of the mini-sub/pod going all the way to Cave 5 no problemo. Sorry pedo guy, you really did ask for it" I love spaceflight and have loved it all my life. I think the hype that SpaceX has generated is amazing. But that doesn't mean that we should suddenly throw aside our thinking hats. Hype generated on the basis of falsehoods is wrong.
  - JoshCole 8y ago
    When I read what you wrote, it appears to me that you are confused as to what we were talking about. You asked for proof of a thing that was stated. I gave it. We were talking about proof of the rocket being more than just a render, with some parts having been under construction and testing. Please re-read the thread context.
  - JoshCole 8y ago
    Re-reading my response, I think I didn't give you enough credit for being genuine. Here is a more direct link to the proof. I can understand how you would miss it. The presentation is very long. https://youtu.be/zu7WJD8vpAQ?t=2679 https://youtu.be/zu7WJD8vpAQ?t=2679
mikeash 8y ago
https://newatlas.com/spacex-yusaku-maezawa-moon-bfr/56373/ https://newatlas.com/spacex-yusaku-maezawa-moon-bfr/56373/
CydeWeys 8y ago
This is going a little too far into conspiracy theory territory, don't you think? SpaceX already has successful launches of the Falcon 1, Falcon 9, and Falcon Heavy behind them. By their own admission, the majority of their R&D effort is going into BFR, as Falcon 9 Block 5 is essentially a complete platform and Falcon Heavy is a bit of a technological dead-end that will be obsoleted by BFR. You can argue that they won't meet their timelines, as they haven't before, but what is the specific accusation here? That it's all lies or some grand cover-up? I don't understand this level of skepticism for a company with a proven track record of results. Maybe you're letting your personal dislike of Elon Musk cloud your judgment too much?

Where's your proof?

You can find videos documenting these things on the spacex website in the presentation that was given announcing the first commercial trip around the moon. You can also find videos documenting the firing of the engine in earlier tests years back in videos introducing the BFR and ITS. Also, since you seem extremely ignorant of SpaceX, I also recommend you watch videos documenting the landing of the two boosters of Falcon Heavy, so that you might better understand the sense of optimism which the company's accomplishments have generated. It is, to put it lightly, incredibly inspiring.

computerex 8y ago
If you're talking about this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu7WJD8vpAQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu7WJD8vpAQ Then you're proving my point that the rocket doesn't exist outside of CGI. Musk himself said that they haven't even built out the prototype fairings yet. The engine has been fired for 1200 seconds as per Wikipedia but I can't find a source for it. Also, this isn't technical documentation, it's the sort of thing that'd impress people ignorant about the complexities of spaceflight. You are wrong that I am ignorant of SpaceX. I watched the landing of the Falcon Heavy boosters and even saw the core crash into the ocean on the day of the test launch. Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to be a debbie downer. However, I am a skeptic and Musk continues to over promise and under deliver across all of his ventures. He continuously makes promises he won't be able to fulfill. Like this one: "We will make one of the mini-sub/pod going all the way to Cave 5 no problemo. Sorry pedo guy, you really did ask for it" I love spaceflight and have loved it all my life. I think the hype that SpaceX has generated is amazing. But that doesn't mean that we should suddenly throw aside our thinking hats. Hype generated on the basis of falsehoods is wrong.
- JoshCole 8y ago
  When I read what you wrote, it appears to me that you are confused as to what we were talking about. You asked for proof of a thing that was stated. I gave it. We were talking about proof of the rocket being more than just a render, with some parts having been under construction and testing. Please re-read the thread context.
- JoshCole 8y ago
  Re-reading my response, I think I didn't give you enough credit for being genuine. Here is a more direct link to the proof. I can understand how you would miss it. The presentation is very long. https://youtu.be/zu7WJD8vpAQ?t=2679 https://youtu.be/zu7WJD8vpAQ?t=2679

mikeash 8y ago

https://newatlas.com/spacex-yusaku-maezawa-moon-bfr/56373/ https://newatlas.com/spacex-yusaku-maezawa-moon-bfr/56373/

CydeWeys 8y ago

This is going a little too far into conspiracy theory territory, don't you think? SpaceX already has successful launches of the Falcon 1, Falcon 9, and Falcon Heavy behind them. By their own admission, the majority of their R&D effort is going into BFR, as Falcon 9 Block 5 is essentially a complete platform and Falcon Heavy is a bit of a technological dead-end that will be obsoleted by BFR. You can argue that they won't meet their timelines, as they haven't before, but what is the specific accusation here? That it's all lies or some grand cover-up? I don't understand this level of skepticism for a company with a proven track record of results. Maybe you're letting your personal dislike of Elon Musk cloud your judgment too much?