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Not just that, github is abused in china now, you pay and they will set up a repo for you, star it for you, so you can show your potential employer "your" githu
by ausjke 8y ago
Not just that, github is abused in china now, you pay and they will set up a repo for you, star it for you, so you can show your potential employer "your" github repo, it's a business operation now.
There is another group of people that will take the phone interview and the remote online coding test for you until you get an onsite interview, since not all phone interview has video chat. That too helped quite some to get accepted into good companies eventually.
- xkcd-sucks 8y agoYeah so do all these fucking bootcamp graduates who copypaste their classmates' code into new repos and star each other. Always ask the candidate to walk you through the repo line by line!
- aldoushuxley001 8y ago> Always ask the candidate to walk you through the repo line by line! That seems a bit much, you're liable to scare away good talent that way.
- Gustomaximus 8y agoCoudnt that be easily managed by saying: "Sorry about this but we've had some candidates passing others code as their own. So we've been asked to take all candidates through some code line by line. Such a pain but we have to do it unfortunately. Ill try and get through quickly. You dont mind do you?"
- reitanqild 8y agoAnd if there is a need for follow up, some variation of "we quite clearly are interested in you and value your time since we spend actual engineer hours walking through your code. What would be disrespectful was if we ignored all your hard work and hired someone not half as good as you because they had more glowing reviews or more stars on their repos." Obviously I'm no hiring manager, but often a bit of honesty goes a long way.
- AJ007 8y agoA bad employee in a small company (or organization of any type) can do a lot of damage. It is negligent to hire someone who hasn't proven they can do what they claim, and negligent for a manager to not verify they aren't doing the work they claim to be doing.
- stingraycharles 8y agoI do try to talk a lot about their own projects during interviews, though, since I can only assume they like to talk about it. And it can lead to very interesting discussions, you learn a lot about a candidate that way.
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- anonymous5133 8y agoGood talent will enjoy walking you through their hard work!
- jl2718 8y agoI agree. Like gramma talking about her babies.
- gaius 8y agoyou're liable to scare away good talent that way People, in general, like to talk about themselves, and engineers like to talk about their own code. "See this if statement, well there's a funny story behind that...". A few years ago I interviewed a candidate who mentioned Github on her CV but no actual URL. What's your username on there, I asked, let's look at some of your code. She refused and said she didn't want me to look at it. Then why did you mention it on your CV I asked? Because she was told she had to, she said. All in all a weird experience, probably for both of us.
- anonnyj 8y agoReally? That sounds super stress free for me. Maybe it's just that I'm super confident about my own code and know it inside out? A white board test on the other hand would literally cause me to run away... Of course I've never coded in a professional capacity, so don't mind me if I said something stupid.
- LearnerHerzog 8y agoI went to a coding bootcamp. I have 80 repositories and can walk you through every one of them line by line with no problem.
- anonymous5133 8y agoSounds like you'll pass the test then. Good job!
- rradish 8y agoI would hire you based on that handle alone
- partycoder 8y agoBootcamp graduates come in many flavors: no college, some college, and college graduates. Some have a CS background, some others don't. Some have working experience, some others don't.
- dugmartin 8y agoI think it would be more telling to just pick a random commit and then show the diff and ask they candidate why they made the changes they did.
- Waterluvian 8y agoHmm. I'm going to try that on myself. I wonder if without context I can answer it every time.
- austincheney 8y agoOr just look at the commit history.
- jackvalentine 8y agoJust wait for hardware to get fast enough to do deep fakes in real time - they'll sit the video interview for you and fake your face and your voice at the same time.