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They're not cheating just themselves. The impact of cheating is way more widespread than that. Often if one person cheats off of another student - they both suf

They're not cheating just themselves. The impact of cheating is way more widespread than that. Often if one person cheats off of another student - they both suffer the consequences, if caught. Regardless of the other student(s) being aware someone cheated off of them. If you're doing group work and one person decides to plagiarize the entire group could be in serious trouble with the institution. It goes further too. It undermines the integrity of the school. Lets say that cheater gets by as you've suggested - now they're in the workforce and their boss realizes they're not very good. This doesn't reflect well on where they obtained their credentials. Worst is that they took a spot at a university that could have been given to a student that wanted to learn. You should also evaluate your friendship with this person. You want them to get credit but it annoys you with how rampant it is. I wouldn't associate with someone that was doing this on an ongoing basis. I'll bring up another reason why this is bad - your friend is writing papers while lacking the technical background of that topic. Sure he has notes and can research but this is not enough. There is a reason why reading webMD and self-diagnosing is not a completely creditable route. Sure your friend might be right, but they also could be wrong AND misguiding people that come across his papers.

RileyJames 8y ago
In Australia at least, no spot was “taken”. As most of the cheaters are overseas full paying students, and there are near an unlimited number of those places available. (They cost big $$$, as other comments have stated, it’s a track to residency) But my point is more that, universities could look at the ‘problem’ and contain it internally rather than the current outside model. University students require some income to survive. Some students are not capable of completing the work required (or don’t want to). Some students are MORE than capable of completing their degree, on top of others. So pair them up. One on one tutoring, paring students who can’t with those that can. Then at least the students doing all the work get paid and recognised for their capabilities. Those that want a piece of paper can have it. Without this my friend (and other gifted students) end up working some mindless job for minimal pay to get through university. Who does that serve? If anything it takes an unskilled position away from the unskilled.
- codebje 8y ago
  There are viable forms of tutoring available for honest students who want to make some income, already, either University funded positions or private tutoring. Your friend may lack the soft skills for tutoring, and definitely lacks the ethics to earn money honestly.
- ndnxhs 8y ago
  I'm in uni in Australia and the unis will take literally anyone who will pay. There was a leaked report showing they were accepting people with atars in the bottom 15%.
- wonthegame 8y ago
  The price necessarily implies there is demand for international students and with that you can conclude that yes, they did take a spot - from another international student.
yesenadam 8y ago
Worst is that they took a spot at a university that could have been given to a student that wanted to learn. Gee, I feel like I'm on another planet to people in this thread. Am I super-naïve or something? What about - worst is, it makes a total farce of the entire university system? Does no-one care about that?? If you can just pay to get someone to write your work, how is that better than a non-existing diploma mill? Isn't the whole idea, to educate people? If they've just paid for a bit of paper, and that's ok, why do we need universities at all?

RileyJames 8y ago

In Australia at least, no spot was “taken”. As most of the cheaters are overseas full paying students, and there are near an unlimited number of those places available. (They cost big $$$, as other comments have stated, it’s a track to residency) But my point is more that, universities could look at the ‘problem’ and contain it internally rather than the current outside model. University students require some income to survive. Some students are not capable of completing the work required (or don’t want to). Some students are MORE than capable of completing their degree, on top of others. So pair them up. One on one tutoring, paring students who can’t with those that can. Then at least the students doing all the work get paid and recognised for their capabilities. Those that want a piece of paper can have it. Without this my friend (and other gifted students) end up working some mindless job for minimal pay to get through university. Who does that serve? If anything it takes an unskilled position away from the unskilled.

codebje 8y ago
There are viable forms of tutoring available for honest students who want to make some income, already, either University funded positions or private tutoring. Your friend may lack the soft skills for tutoring, and definitely lacks the ethics to earn money honestly.
ndnxhs 8y ago
I'm in uni in Australia and the unis will take literally anyone who will pay. There was a leaked report showing they were accepting people with atars in the bottom 15%.
wonthegame 8y ago
The price necessarily implies there is demand for international students and with that you can conclude that yes, they did take a spot - from another international student.

yesenadam 8y ago

Worst is that they took a spot at a university that could have been given to a student that wanted to learn. Gee, I feel like I'm on another planet to people in this thread. Am I super-naïve or something? What about - worst is, it makes a total farce of the entire university system? Does no-one care about that?? If you can just pay to get someone to write your work, how is that better than a non-existing diploma mill? Isn't the whole idea, to educate people? If they've just paid for a bit of paper, and that's ok, why do we need universities at all?