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Very well put. Not taking a stance, but rather just analyzing the constraints on possible conclusions. > The only thing that would be required for that is a ca

Very well put. Not taking a stance, but rather just analyzing the constraints on possible conclusions. > The only thing that would be required for that is a causal relationship (yet to be observed in science) between your dying mind and some other living structure. Especially this part is phrased so accurately. Of course we are yet to observe anything similar to it either. Something that survives death and is capable of supporting thought. It would have to be something material, right?

erikpukinskis 8y ago
Material yes. Not necessarily atomic though. Probably electrical since consciousness seems fairly electrical for humans. Personally, I think the idea that you and I are separate is an illusion we evolved in order to protect ourselves more fiercely and to be more willing to kill. Without it, you would understand that you are not separate from the rest of the living world, that your mind is a space where many immortal psychic creatures cross paths. And part of life is to locate your self, that specific set of crossings, in the world. So, immortal life just means dissociating from your body and associating with your crossings as they are in the world. (DMT is a dissociative so you can see how it could help.) A fully “enlightened” person will have located a complete, stable set of crossings, dissociated from everything else in their body, and broadcast that message out into the biosphere sufficiently long enough for it to be recorded. There is more to this picture, involving non-“enlightened” reincarnation, which is something the inverse of those crossings will do at death as a form of rebalancing the consciousnesses disks, like a RAID array. Most of these things are psychosocial. Believing them is more a matter of believing that you are as much a psychosocial being as you are a physical one.

erikpukinskis 8y ago

Material yes. Not necessarily atomic though. Probably electrical since consciousness seems fairly electrical for humans. Personally, I think the idea that you and I are separate is an illusion we evolved in order to protect ourselves more fiercely and to be more willing to kill. Without it, you would understand that you are not separate from the rest of the living world, that your mind is a space where many immortal psychic creatures cross paths. And part of life is to locate your self, that specific set of crossings, in the world. So, immortal life just means dissociating from your body and associating with your crossings as they are in the world. (DMT is a dissociative so you can see how it could help.) A fully “enlightened” person will have located a complete, stable set of crossings, dissociated from everything else in their body, and broadcast that message out into the biosphere sufficiently long enough for it to be recorded. There is more to this picture, involving non-“enlightened” reincarnation, which is something the inverse of those crossings will do at death as a form of rebalancing the consciousnesses disks, like a RAID array. Most of these things are psychosocial. Believing them is more a matter of believing that you are as much a psychosocial being as you are a physical one.