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gab.ai and voat are filled with literal actual white supremacists

nonbel 8y ago
>"gab.ai and voat are filled with literal actual white supremacists" Is that because they were the first to be kicked off reddit/twitter? So, reddit/twitter used to be "filled with" them? Just think of it as part of a lifecycle then. If normal people start moving to voat, the bad people will make up a smaller and smaller percentage. Then they move to the next site, and voat becomes taken over by political forces, repeat. Also, I'm thinking if you don't like one of the alternatives for whatever reason, is it really that hard to create one of those sites? I heard somewhere Voat was created by one guy as a hobby. A good search engine seems like it would be the most difficult one.
- chasing 8y ago
  No. That's not why they're that way. gab.ai used to have a variation on that stupid pepe frog as its logo, for example. They're aiming at a specific crowd.
  - nonbel 8y ago
    Fine, then people should make other ones. Personally, I don't think either reddit or twitter were a positive evolution over the decentralized specialized forums that existed before. You didn't comment on the second part, so I'll assume its correct. If it isnt that difficult to make these sites, what is the need for some sort of regulation? Someone just needs to make a new site and the people complaining about being censored/whatever can go there.
    - chasing 8y ago
      This isn't debate club nor is it court: Just because I don't comment on something you say doesn't mean you're correct. That said: You're making the classic developer mistake of confusing the ability to technically build a piece of software with the ability to build and sustain a community of users who use that software. Tossing code together is the very easy part when it comes to online communities.
      - nonbel 8y ago
        But the whole point of the regulations is to satisfy a community of people who are unhappy with how they are being treated by current sites. The community already exists and is looking for a site.

>"gab.ai and voat are filled with literal actual white supremacists" Is that because they were the first to be kicked off reddit/twitter? So, reddit/twitter used to be "filled with" them? Just think of it as part of a lifecycle then. If normal people start moving to voat, the bad people will make up a smaller and smaller percentage. Then they move to the next site, and voat becomes taken over by political forces, repeat. Also, I'm thinking if you don't like one of the alternatives for whatever reason, is it really that hard to create one of those sites? I heard somewhere Voat was created by one guy as a hobby. A good search engine seems like it would be the most difficult one.

chasing 8y ago
No. That's not why they're that way. gab.ai used to have a variation on that stupid pepe frog as its logo, for example. They're aiming at a specific crowd.
- nonbel 8y ago
  Fine, then people should make other ones. Personally, I don't think either reddit or twitter were a positive evolution over the decentralized specialized forums that existed before. You didn't comment on the second part, so I'll assume its correct. If it isnt that difficult to make these sites, what is the need for some sort of regulation? Someone just needs to make a new site and the people complaining about being censored/whatever can go there.
  - chasing 8y ago
    This isn't debate club nor is it court: Just because I don't comment on something you say doesn't mean you're correct. That said: You're making the classic developer mistake of confusing the ability to technically build a piece of software with the ability to build and sustain a community of users who use that software. Tossing code together is the very easy part when it comes to online communities.
    - nonbel 8y ago
      But the whole point of the regulations is to satisfy a community of people who are unhappy with how they are being treated by current sites. The community already exists and is looking for a site.