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I have a question for the commenters who are disappointed by this event: how do you feel about PayPal's actions here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=180176

I have a question for the commenters who are disappointed by this event: how do you feel about PayPal's actions here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18017635 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18017635 (PayPal’s crackdown on ASMR creators)? If you have a different reaction to that, then please explain the difference between the two kinds of events for me as plainly as you can for my understanding.

tomp 8y ago
What’s a reasonable explanation of the ASMR ban. I’m asking because I just don’t see any ewuivalence between these two issues. I’m personally deeply disappointed by (and oppose) both bans, but at least I can see some reason for Infowars ban (“he’s spreading harmful information”) whereas I cannot really come up with any not-obviously-contrived (i.e. “sex-fear-mongering”) explanation.
- tareqak 8y ago
  My question is aimed at developing my understanding of the people who support the ASMR ban, but are against the InfoWars one.
  - repolfx 8y ago
    Are there any such people? I tried to figure out what was going on from your story but it's like coming into the middle of a family fight that's been going on for years. The stuff they're currently arguing about is probably not how it started. In particular PayPal says specifically in that article that they don't have any policies against ASMR (which apparently is mostly videos of women making weird sound effects?). So why are they suspending accounts, well presumably they think they're doing it for other reasons. The article goes on to talk about YouTube being "anti sex" or something so presumably there's more to these videos than is being let on. At any rate, I think it's dumb that payment processors suspend accounts for sex-related stuff too, but that's at least something with a basis in US law so PayPal may feel they are legally forced to do it. FOSTA is mentioned.

tomp 8y ago

What’s a reasonable explanation of the ASMR ban. I’m asking because I just don’t see any ewuivalence between these two issues. I’m personally deeply disappointed by (and oppose) both bans, but at least I can see some reason for Infowars ban (“he’s spreading harmful information”) whereas I cannot really come up with any not-obviously-contrived (i.e. “sex-fear-mongering”) explanation.

tareqak 8y ago
My question is aimed at developing my understanding of the people who support the ASMR ban, but are against the InfoWars one.
- repolfx 8y ago
  Are there any such people? I tried to figure out what was going on from your story but it's like coming into the middle of a family fight that's been going on for years. The stuff they're currently arguing about is probably not how it started. In particular PayPal says specifically in that article that they don't have any policies against ASMR (which apparently is mostly videos of women making weird sound effects?). So why are they suspending accounts, well presumably they think they're doing it for other reasons. The article goes on to talk about YouTube being "anti sex" or something so presumably there's more to these videos than is being let on. At any rate, I think it's dumb that payment processors suspend accounts for sex-related stuff too, but that's at least something with a basis in US law so PayPal may feel they are legally forced to do it. FOSTA is mentioned.