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Should we rely on the Inquisition's records as reference to judge Giordano Bruno, or on his works and public discourse before he was imprisoned for 7 years then

Should we rely on the Inquisition's records as reference to judge Giordano Bruno, or on his works and public discourse before he was imprisoned for 7 years then murdered? His arguments for the Copernican model were better than the ones made by Copernicus. He offered several lines of reasoning that Galileo later also resorted to -- you know, the very similar arguments for which Galileo was persecuted by the Inquisition during 20 years. More importantly than all of that, Bruno relentlessly argued that thinkers should be free to inquire, reason, and speak regardless of what the Bible and Church said -- all the way to the day of his public murder.

josefx 8y ago
> Should we rely on the Inquisition's records as reference to judge Giordano Bruno Internal records of an organization with little opposition and little reason to falsify them at the time? Do you have other sources that paint a different picture? The church certainly did not have a monopoly on paper. > you know, the very similar arguments for which Galileo was persecuted by the Inquisition during 20 years. So arguments for which Galileo was never executed? Arguments for which Galileo was merely put under house arrest after years of disputes and insults exchanged between him an the highest offices of the church? Your example doesn't help to prove your point. > Bruno relentlessly argued that thinkers should be free to inquire, reason, and speak From which you get such things like "vaccines cause autism", there is a need for someone to keep an eye on self proclaimed "thinkers", especially the ones spouting nonsense. It doesn't help that (afaik) the Copernican model was too simple to account for various observations and could be shown to be worse than the complex models used for the geocentric model, which caused even Galileo some trouble.

josefx 8y ago

> Should we rely on the Inquisition's records as reference to judge Giordano Bruno Internal records of an organization with little opposition and little reason to falsify them at the time? Do you have other sources that paint a different picture? The church certainly did not have a monopoly on paper. > you know, the very similar arguments for which Galileo was persecuted by the Inquisition during 20 years. So arguments for which Galileo was never executed? Arguments for which Galileo was merely put under house arrest after years of disputes and insults exchanged between him an the highest offices of the church? Your example doesn't help to prove your point. > Bruno relentlessly argued that thinkers should be free to inquire, reason, and speak From which you get such things like "vaccines cause autism", there is a need for someone to keep an eye on self proclaimed "thinkers", especially the ones spouting nonsense. It doesn't help that (afaik) the Copernican model was too simple to account for various observations and could be shown to be worse than the complex models used for the geocentric model, which caused even Galileo some trouble.