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Firstly, travelers are consenting adults that should understand and accept the baggage policy - or use a different airline. The market is extremely competitive.

Firstly, travelers are consenting adults that should understand and accept the baggage policy - or use a different airline. The market is extremely competitive. Secondly, as a person who has traveled backpack for years, I find the whole "luggage is an essential element of air transport" line quite offensive. It's a service I want to purchase but you won't let me because some guy might be confused by a price comparison app to buy a baggage-less ticket (mind you, not even by Ryanair themselves, on their website it is very clear what you get for the price). It's revolting.

gaius 8y ago
use a different airline. The market is extremely competitive. Ryanair is the only airline to certain destinations no matter how much you are willing to pay. And they have form for manipulation. For a long time if you wanted to opt out of their insurance, you had to set that as your nationality...
- lorenzobr 8y ago
  > Ryanair is the only airline to certain destinations Surely it's not Ryanair's fault if others are not willing to compete for certain destinations.
  - seszett 8y ago
    Maybe, but you cannot say that the market is "extremely competitive" and "others are not willing to compete" at the same time.
    - lorenzobr 8y ago
      I'm not the one who said the market is "extremely competitive". For sure is a market with high barriers to entry, very expensive to be in and profit margins are not that high either. So if you are Ryanair you aim at doing more destinations and paid "extras", if you are Alitalia you aim at doing fewer destinations on a much bigger price mark.
  - arkades 8y ago
    > it’s a very competitive market > it’s not their fault there’s no competition Perhaps you could rephrase your rebuttal? It doesn’t quite make sense as I am interpreting it.
  - gaius 8y ago
    There have been various dodgy dealings around subsidies, it’s by no means as clear-cut as that. This freezes rivals out.
    - lorenzobr 8y ago
      dodgy dealings = lobbying. Everyone does it in every industry unfortunately for us consumers.
- rsynnott 8y ago
  Really? Where? I don’t doubt there are one or two, but most of their routes seem to be similar to the national carriers (though often to a different airport).

gaius 8y ago

use a different airline. The market is extremely competitive. Ryanair is the only airline to certain destinations no matter how much you are willing to pay. And they have form for manipulation. For a long time if you wanted to opt out of their insurance, you had to set that as your nationality...

lorenzobr 8y ago
> Ryanair is the only airline to certain destinations Surely it's not Ryanair's fault if others are not willing to compete for certain destinations.
- seszett 8y ago
  Maybe, but you cannot say that the market is "extremely competitive" and "others are not willing to compete" at the same time.
  - lorenzobr 8y ago
    I'm not the one who said the market is "extremely competitive". For sure is a market with high barriers to entry, very expensive to be in and profit margins are not that high either. So if you are Ryanair you aim at doing more destinations and paid "extras", if you are Alitalia you aim at doing fewer destinations on a much bigger price mark.
- arkades 8y ago
  > it’s a very competitive market > it’s not their fault there’s no competition Perhaps you could rephrase your rebuttal? It doesn’t quite make sense as I am interpreting it.
- gaius 8y ago
  There have been various dodgy dealings around subsidies, it’s by no means as clear-cut as that. This freezes rivals out.
  - lorenzobr 8y ago
    dodgy dealings = lobbying. Everyone does it in every industry unfortunately for us consumers.
rsynnott 8y ago
Really? Where? I don’t doubt there are one or two, but most of their routes seem to be similar to the national carriers (though often to a different airport).