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It's weird to me when the article fails to load because of uMatrix. The actual content is not being delivered by the page load, but the boilerplate is. I wasn

It's weird to me when the article fails to load because of uMatrix. The actual content is not being delivered by the page load, but the boilerplate is. I wasn't able to access the article after turning on everything from BBC, so they must be waiting until some external tracker loads before presenting the content.

enriquto 8y ago
yeah, this site is completely unreadable to me also
whoopdedo 8y ago
Would it work if you used a UK proxy/VPN? I recall there are different advertising rules for the BBC when serving domestic and foreign visitors.
- Angostura 8y ago
  This is a bbc.com URL, should be internationally available. Works for me in the UK FWIW, Safari Mac.
  - chrxr 8y ago
    I don't think that's the issue being referred to. BBC.com has no advertising when viewed within the UK. Outside the UK it has a ton of adverts and tracking. So using UK VPN should get around those things.
- projektfu 8y ago
  Maybe, but I'm not that excited about it. I already skip nytimes articles and now I can safely skip bbc articles. If websites enable cookies or trackers on the domains they own, I'm okay with that, but I'm avoiding tracking from other domains for now. If you want to have brightcove gatekeep your content, go ahead.
moccachino 8y ago
Same here. I found that they are called Makhonjwa Mountains. Some pictures can be found here: https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/1575/gallery/ https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/1575/gallery/ And a very short wikipedia entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makhonjwa_Mountains https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makhonjwa_Mountains
zmk_ 8y ago
It wants brightcove.
- e40 8y ago
  I don't see that, and I use uMatrix as well.
aerique 8y ago
The page has a NoScript Index of 2 but eventually shows the content for me. (NoScript Index ⇒ The amount of times one has to press "Temporarily allow all this page" before the actual content one is coming for shows.)
- kevin_thibedeau 8y ago
  The offender is an odd dependency on loading Brightcove scripts before rendering the page text. BBC should be better than this. How is this accessible?
dvfjsdhgfv 8y ago
It's really annoying because the content is right there in the source of the page, it's not being loaded afterwards, it's just being served by JS instead of being displayed. Gosh, I just hope it's not some new trend.
- dredmorbius 8y ago
  It's been practiced for a while now. Forbes.com does similarly.
- projektfu 8y ago
  I didn't see the content in the source when I looked.
ChrisSD 8y ago
It needs scripts from these domains: * www.bbc.com * admin.brightcove.com * emp.bbci.co.uk * nav.files.bbci.co.uk * static.bbci.co.uk If anyone of those are denied it will fail to load the content.
chrxr 8y ago
Being from the UK originally, bbc was always my go to site. Recently I've found it incredibly annoying to access in the US, particularly on mobile. There is a full screen overlay add for every page view. Note that I don't use any kind of ad blocking, so I'm bringing this trouble on myself.
philipov 8y ago
It was an interesting headline, but I don't feel like I'm missing anything if the BBC insists on filling their page with malware.
guelo 8y ago
You can read the article inside the first section of this json blob http://www.bbc.com/travel/data/v1/search/story-by-destination/wwtravel/south-africa http://www.bbc.com/travel/data/v1/search/story-by-destinatio... And as a bonus in that json you can read every other crappy travel article they've ever written about South Africa .

enriquto 8y ago

yeah, this site is completely unreadable to me also

whoopdedo 8y ago

Would it work if you used a UK proxy/VPN? I recall there are different advertising rules for the BBC when serving domestic and foreign visitors.

Angostura 8y ago
This is a bbc.com URL, should be internationally available. Works for me in the UK FWIW, Safari Mac.
- chrxr 8y ago
  I don't think that's the issue being referred to. BBC.com has no advertising when viewed within the UK. Outside the UK it has a ton of adverts and tracking. So using UK VPN should get around those things.
projektfu 8y ago
Maybe, but I'm not that excited about it. I already skip nytimes articles and now I can safely skip bbc articles. If websites enable cookies or trackers on the domains they own, I'm okay with that, but I'm avoiding tracking from other domains for now. If you want to have brightcove gatekeep your content, go ahead.

moccachino 8y ago

Same here. I found that they are called Makhonjwa Mountains. Some pictures can be found here: https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/1575/gallery/ https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/1575/gallery/ And a very short wikipedia entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makhonjwa_Mountains https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makhonjwa_Mountains

zmk_ 8y ago

It wants brightcove.

e40 8y ago
I don't see that, and I use uMatrix as well.

aerique 8y ago

The page has a NoScript Index of 2 but eventually shows the content for me. (NoScript Index ⇒ The amount of times one has to press "Temporarily allow all this page" before the actual content one is coming for shows.)

kevin_thibedeau 8y ago
The offender is an odd dependency on loading Brightcove scripts before rendering the page text. BBC should be better than this. How is this accessible?

dvfjsdhgfv 8y ago

It's really annoying because the content is right there in the source of the page, it's not being loaded afterwards, it's just being served by JS instead of being displayed. Gosh, I just hope it's not some new trend.

dredmorbius 8y ago
It's been practiced for a while now. Forbes.com does similarly.
projektfu 8y ago
I didn't see the content in the source when I looked.

ChrisSD 8y ago

It needs scripts from these domains: * www.bbc.com * admin.brightcove.com * emp.bbci.co.uk * nav.files.bbci.co.uk * static.bbci.co.uk If anyone of those are denied it will fail to load the content.

chrxr 8y ago

Being from the UK originally, bbc was always my go to site. Recently I've found it incredibly annoying to access in the US, particularly on mobile. There is a full screen overlay add for every page view. Note that I don't use any kind of ad blocking, so I'm bringing this trouble on myself.

philipov 8y ago

It was an interesting headline, but I don't feel like I'm missing anything if the BBC insists on filling their page with malware.

guelo 8y ago

You can read the article inside the first section of this json blob http://www.bbc.com/travel/data/v1/search/story-by-destination/wwtravel/south-africa http://www.bbc.com/travel/data/v1/search/story-by-destinatio... And as a bonus in that json you can read every other crappy travel article they've ever written about South Africa .