> Charging people more who are intentionally harming themselves with poor diet and bad exercise habits is both ethical and fair 0) Heart disease, not obesity,

> Charging people more who are intentionally harming themselves with poor diet and bad exercise habits is both ethical and fair 0) Heart disease, not obesity, is the number one killer in america. There is not a particularly strong correlation (certainly not = 1.0) between heart disease and obesity, diet, or even exercise. 1) There is very, very little correlation between exercise and obesity. 2) The systemic origins of obesity are not well understood, certainly not well enough to declare "ethical and fair" any kind of punitive mechanisms. 3) Your argument appears to be steeped in Puritan ethics which are unsupportable given modern science and medicine about the nature of free will, how the biology and physiology of the mind affects heath outcomes, and even the effectiveness of punishment as a generator of "good" behavior.