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My point was that it's not clear to me that Dixon was really a victim in all this, even if there were problems with the case that justify vacating his convictio

My point was that it's not clear to me that Dixon was really a victim in all this, even if there were problems with the case that justify vacating his conviction. I didn't suggest that the state is unquestionable -- but I don't think this case is a cut & dry illustration of the wrongs that the Innocence Project can help to right. As far as what the appropriate punishment would be, I would think an appropriate punishment for driving your body guard to a crime scene and giving them a murder weapon should be the same as the punishment for murder. I'm no lawyer though, that's just my intuitive assessment.

gammateam 8y ago
> but I don't think this case is a cut & dry illustration of the wrongs that the Innocence Project can help to right. And I don't think the 'Innocence Project' or any exoneration efforts should be based on how empathetic people are to the convict. Let's continue highlighting the wide discretion the prosecutors are able to use even when technically prohibited, and the lack of incentives for the state to undermine its monopoly on authority and investigate itself. Let's make these 'tiny administrative offenses' so intolerable and egregious that there is selective evolution towards better investigations and better evidence collection. Real consequences for operating outside of those bounds. Easier remedies for the people accused and convicted. THE ACTUAL MURDERER BEING OFF THE STREET if anyone's pooled resources are going to be used by this public entity at all, what a concept. Those are my perspectives.
tyrust 8y ago
>it's not clear to me that Dixon was really a victim in all this And that's where I think the perspective is messed up. Sentencing guidelines are codified in law. This man received and served a non-trivial portion of a sentence that he did not deserve. In my opinion, there is no ambiguity here: he is a victim of a failure of the legal system. As a victim his damages amount to at least 12 years of his life. Note that this makes him less of a criminal for the crimes he did commit. Not really relevant to our conversation, but where did you get this "body guard" quote?
- mcguire 8y ago
  ""Mr. Dixon is not an innocent man. Don't be misguided in that at all,'' Erie County District Attorney John Flynn told reporters after the hearing. He described Dixon as "an up-and-coming drug dealer in the city of Buffalo'' at the time of the shooting and said Scott was Dixon's bodyguard." From the ESPN link.
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gammateam 8y ago

> but I don't think this case is a cut & dry illustration of the wrongs that the Innocence Project can help to right. And I don't think the 'Innocence Project' or any exoneration efforts should be based on how empathetic people are to the convict. Let's continue highlighting the wide discretion the prosecutors are able to use even when technically prohibited, and the lack of incentives for the state to undermine its monopoly on authority and investigate itself. Let's make these 'tiny administrative offenses' so intolerable and egregious that there is selective evolution towards better investigations and better evidence collection. Real consequences for operating outside of those bounds. Easier remedies for the people accused and convicted. THE ACTUAL MURDERER BEING OFF THE STREET if anyone's pooled resources are going to be used by this public entity at all, what a concept. Those are my perspectives.

tyrust 8y ago

>it's not clear to me that Dixon was really a victim in all this And that's where I think the perspective is messed up. Sentencing guidelines are codified in law. This man received and served a non-trivial portion of a sentence that he did not deserve. In my opinion, there is no ambiguity here: he is a victim of a failure of the legal system. As a victim his damages amount to at least 12 years of his life. Note that this makes him less of a criminal for the crimes he did commit. Not really relevant to our conversation, but where did you get this "body guard" quote?

mcguire 8y ago
""Mr. Dixon is not an innocent man. Don't be misguided in that at all,'' Erie County District Attorney John Flynn told reporters after the hearing. He described Dixon as "an up-and-coming drug dealer in the city of Buffalo'' at the time of the shooting and said Scott was Dixon's bodyguard." From the ESPN link.
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