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I’d be more interested in knowing if someone had ported the ideas behind react in a cross platform language, rather than shipping a JavaScript engine with all y

by d--b 8y ago

I’d be more interested in knowing if someone had ported the ideas behind react in a cross platform language, rather than shipping a JavaScript engine with all your apps. Or maybe there should a JavaScript virtual machine in the OS itself.

pavlov 8y ago
There is a fast JavaScript VM included in Apple's iOS + macOS (JavaScriptCore/Nitro) as well as Windows (Chakra), and they come with a public API.
Touche 8y ago
The ideas behind react predate react by decades, so yes, people have...
- d--b 8y ago
  but cross-platform?
frostymarvelous 8y ago
I think flutter fills that space. Apart from lacking proper background task support, it's a good offering. As a very adopter of react, flutter tickles me the same way.
ducaale 8y ago
https://github.com/pojala/electrino https://github.com/pojala/electrino is electron alternative that uses the system's own web browser engine.
- sdegutis 8y ago
  I had the same idea: a lightweight variant of Electron, that just uses WKWebView for the GUI and JavaScriptCore for the core functionality, passing messages between them (serializing via JSON). I have a proof of concept already, but it's not cross-platform so that's a major downside, and I don't think many people need the combination of (1) Mac-only, (2) lightweight, (3) using JS for the core logic, (4) using web views for the GUI. I just don't think there's a market for that.
  - cxvlkjdoijg 8y ago
    Your idea is not bad. In fact it has been done multiple times already. https://github.com/zserge/webview https://github.com/zserge/webview https://github.com/Boscop/web-view https://github.com/Boscop/web-view and so on
true_religion 8y ago
Javascript is implemented on every major platform. And I do not really see download size as an issue. Many people play games, and the textures used for even a simple RPG take up more space than a javascript engine. If people are willing to download that much for an entertainment product, then it should be no surprise they are willing to put up with javascript in their work and personal productivity apps.
- david-cako 8y ago
  I think they take issue with the bridge aspect of react-native and with shipping a node binary instead of using the platform's built-in javascript engine (a-la react-native). For instance, <View> would create either an NSView or System.Windows.Controls.Grid using a yet non-existent JS api on each platform, instead of having a bridge that talks back and forth with the platform-native language.
deathtrader666 8y ago
ReasonML can build for the web as well as native. ReasonReact is slowly gaining steam.

by d--b 8y ago

pavlov 8y ago

There is a fast JavaScript VM included in Apple's iOS + macOS (JavaScriptCore/Nitro) as well as Windows (Chakra), and they come with a public API.

Touche 8y ago

The ideas behind react predate react by decades, so yes, people have...

d--b 8y ago
but cross-platform?

frostymarvelous 8y ago

I think flutter fills that space. Apart from lacking proper background task support, it's a good offering. As a very adopter of react, flutter tickles me the same way.

ducaale 8y ago

https://github.com/pojala/electrino https://github.com/pojala/electrino is electron alternative that uses the system's own web browser engine.

sdegutis 8y ago
I had the same idea: a lightweight variant of Electron, that just uses WKWebView for the GUI and JavaScriptCore for the core functionality, passing messages between them (serializing via JSON). I have a proof of concept already, but it's not cross-platform so that's a major downside, and I don't think many people need the combination of (1) Mac-only, (2) lightweight, (3) using JS for the core logic, (4) using web views for the GUI. I just don't think there's a market for that.
- cxvlkjdoijg 8y ago
  Your idea is not bad. In fact it has been done multiple times already. https://github.com/zserge/webview https://github.com/zserge/webview https://github.com/Boscop/web-view https://github.com/Boscop/web-view and so on

true_religion 8y ago

Javascript is implemented on every major platform. And I do not really see download size as an issue. Many people play games, and the textures used for even a simple RPG take up more space than a javascript engine. If people are willing to download that much for an entertainment product, then it should be no surprise they are willing to put up with javascript in their work and personal productivity apps.

david-cako 8y ago
I think they take issue with the bridge aspect of react-native and with shipping a node binary instead of using the platform's built-in javascript engine (a-la react-native). For instance, <View> would create either an NSView or System.Windows.Controls.Grid using a yet non-existent JS api on each platform, instead of having a bridge that talks back and forth with the platform-native language.

deathtrader666 8y ago

ReasonML can build for the web as well as native. ReasonReact is slowly gaining steam.