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I was just at a resort hotel in Japan and went over to the pizza bar for some sausage pizza (hopefully) only to find pizza with varieties of fish :( it’s actual

I was just at a resort hotel in Japan and went over to the pizza bar for some sausage pizza (hopefully) only to find pizza with varieties of fish :( it’s actually kind of hard to find really good American style pizza here. The same goes for burgers - everything has weird ingredients, sauces or the meat is not 100% (mixed with some other stuff). Don’t get me wrong, the food is amazing, but once in a while I just want some ham and pineapple or meat lovers shitty papa johns, ya know? I would choke a child over some Chicago deep dish right about now.

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harimau777 8y ago
...ham and pineapple... You monster! (Kidding, although I don't think I'll ever understand Hawaiian pizza)
sho 8y ago
> it’s actually kind of hard to find really good American style pizza here And when she was good, she was very, very good, But when she was bad she was horrid I have to admit Japan is weird like that. Food is either world class (when they "get it") or it's simply awful (when they don't). There's no good Thai in Tokyo, no good hamburgers, no good Mexican, not even much decent Italian (Saizeriya. Dear God). Not really even any good bread, if you like crusty sourdough. There's a complicated calculus at work between what the market wants, its expectation when it gets it, and what it will pay. When those factors align you will get absolutely world class food. When they don't, for whatever reason, you get absolutely nonsensical garbage. The best Thai that I know of in Tokyo, a city of 30+ million people, I would equate to a 3rd rate strip mall takeout place in my home country. And yet the crappiest 5-for-100¥ gyouza in Tokyo is better than any gyouza in Australia. The market drives everything, and the japanese market knows nothing about pizza. I've felt your pain. Eat a lot when you get back home. update: just noticed that you wanted ham and pineapple pizza. I withdraw my sympathetic remarks. I consider fish pizza an appropriate punishment
- mmjaa 8y ago
  I had great burgers in Shibuya. Good Pizza in Koenji. Great Italian in Asagaya-kita. McDonalds Roppongi: not so great, but then .. low expectations there. I think it depends where you get out - these are not tourist-type restaurants, but rather novelties for the neighbourhoods. For sure, stay the heck away from Japanese bread. Worst experience ever: biting into a nice freshly baked roll, to find fish paste where I thought would be some kinda jam. Gross. Traditional Japanese food, and all the fixings in between, can be very, very good. I loved my Ramen days, my Korean BBQ too. Tokyo food was good for me after a year. You've gotta get out into the neighborhoods. Same as anywhere, really.

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harimau777 8y ago

...ham and pineapple... You monster! (Kidding, although I don't think I'll ever understand Hawaiian pizza)

sho 8y ago

> it’s actually kind of hard to find really good American style pizza here And when she was good, she was very, very good, But when she was bad she was horrid I have to admit Japan is weird like that. Food is either world class (when they "get it") or it's simply awful (when they don't). There's no good Thai in Tokyo, no good hamburgers, no good Mexican, not even much decent Italian (Saizeriya. Dear God). Not really even any good bread, if you like crusty sourdough. There's a complicated calculus at work between what the market wants, its expectation when it gets it, and what it will pay. When those factors align you will get absolutely world class food. When they don't, for whatever reason, you get absolutely nonsensical garbage. The best Thai that I know of in Tokyo, a city of 30+ million people, I would equate to a 3rd rate strip mall takeout place in my home country. And yet the crappiest 5-for-100¥ gyouza in Tokyo is better than any gyouza in Australia. The market drives everything, and the japanese market knows nothing about pizza. I've felt your pain. Eat a lot when you get back home. update: just noticed that you wanted ham and pineapple pizza. I withdraw my sympathetic remarks. I consider fish pizza an appropriate punishment

mmjaa 8y ago
I had great burgers in Shibuya. Good Pizza in Koenji. Great Italian in Asagaya-kita. McDonalds Roppongi: not so great, but then .. low expectations there. I think it depends where you get out - these are not tourist-type restaurants, but rather novelties for the neighbourhoods. For sure, stay the heck away from Japanese bread. Worst experience ever: biting into a nice freshly baked roll, to find fish paste where I thought would be some kinda jam. Gross. Traditional Japanese food, and all the fixings in between, can be very, very good. I loved my Ramen days, my Korean BBQ too. Tokyo food was good for me after a year. You've gotta get out into the neighborhoods. Same as anywhere, really.