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Doubt, there's no pure communist states left, they all fell after killing a bunch of their citizens by "knowing what's best". The economy is a chaotic system a

Doubt, there's no pure communist states left, they all fell after killing a bunch of their citizens by "knowing what's best". The economy is a chaotic system and any earnest attempt at top down control will fail, let alone communism which historically was more about transferring power to your friends than any real belief in an ideology.

mojuba 8y ago
Just FYI (has been said a gazillion times on the Internet): no state on this planet was ever communist. Communism is a society without money, no such thing existed on a state level anywhere. The states you are referring to were 100% socialist, i.e. no private property in any form or share with very very few exceptions; money tightly controlled by the state; all businesses are state-owned. The comment above though probably meant the true communism, i.e. society without money.
- ffwacom 8y ago
  A society without money is even more absurd.
  - lightbyte 8y ago
    The Inca Civilization had no money was was pretty darn successful http://www.discover-peru.org/inca-economy-society/ http://www.discover-peru.org/inca-economy-society/
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    - ffwacom 8y ago
      Tiny fiefdom. Think of the insane size of what we call society even 100 years ago, money is what makes us cooperate.
      - lightbyte 8y ago
        I wouldn't call the Inca Empire a "tiny fiefdom", at its height they had 10 million citizens and covered 2 million km2
        ffwacom 8y ago
        doubt they had the absolute control on law that a modern state has, empire in the loosest/historical sense
- lightbyte 8y ago
  >Communism is a society without money, no such thing existed on a state level anywhere. While it might not be something you can compare to communism, the Inca Civilization had a centrally planned economy with no form of money at all and was HUGELY successful [1] [1]: http://www.discover-peru.org/inca-economy-society/ http://www.discover-peru.org/inca-economy-society/
- yostrovs 8y ago
  Communism in practice is the unending struggle to achieve the imaginary, theoretical communism you refer to.
  - apocalypstyx 8y ago
    Couldn't the same be said for what most people call capitalism?
  - maxxxxx 8y ago
    That's pretty much how all ideologies work. Listen to some hardcore libertarians and you will hear them longing for the imaginary, theoretical free market that never has existed and probably never will.
- hueving 8y ago
  >The comment above though probably meant the true communism, i.e. society without money. Why would you think that? The term "communist experiment" implies that it's one being conducted right now. There are no states with even hints of plans for this "true communism" you speak of.

mojuba 8y ago

Just FYI (has been said a gazillion times on the Internet): no state on this planet was ever communist. Communism is a society without money, no such thing existed on a state level anywhere. The states you are referring to were 100% socialist, i.e. no private property in any form or share with very very few exceptions; money tightly controlled by the state; all businesses are state-owned. The comment above though probably meant the true communism, i.e. society without money.

ffwacom 8y ago
A society without money is even more absurd.
- lightbyte 8y ago
  The Inca Civilization had no money was was pretty darn successful http://www.discover-peru.org/inca-economy-society/ http://www.discover-peru.org/inca-economy-society/
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  - ffwacom 8y ago
    Tiny fiefdom. Think of the insane size of what we call society even 100 years ago, money is what makes us cooperate.
    - lightbyte 8y ago
      I wouldn't call the Inca Empire a "tiny fiefdom", at its height they had 10 million citizens and covered 2 million km2
      - ffwacom 8y ago
        doubt they had the absolute control on law that a modern state has, empire in the loosest/historical sense
lightbyte 8y ago
>Communism is a society without money, no such thing existed on a state level anywhere. While it might not be something you can compare to communism, the Inca Civilization had a centrally planned economy with no form of money at all and was HUGELY successful [1] [1]: http://www.discover-peru.org/inca-economy-society/ http://www.discover-peru.org/inca-economy-society/
yostrovs 8y ago
Communism in practice is the unending struggle to achieve the imaginary, theoretical communism you refer to.
- apocalypstyx 8y ago
  Couldn't the same be said for what most people call capitalism?
- maxxxxx 8y ago
  That's pretty much how all ideologies work. Listen to some hardcore libertarians and you will hear them longing for the imaginary, theoretical free market that never has existed and probably never will.
hueving 8y ago
>The comment above though probably meant the true communism, i.e. society without money. Why would you think that? The term "communist experiment" implies that it's one being conducted right now. There are no states with even hints of plans for this "true communism" you speak of.