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This is our future https://youtu.be/TlO2gcs1YvM https://youtu.be/TlO2gcs1YvM I’m not really sure how we counter this type of threat.

by rblatz 8y ago

krob 8y ago
Wow, mind blown, your video link scares the shit out of me.
- atrilumen 8y ago
  Yeah, wow; it's just an application of existing tech. very scary.
  - rtkwe 8y ago
    There's a couple sizable leaps in there in particular the combination of size, payload, and autonomy for the main mini murder drones. Particularly quads/drones of that small size just don't have the payload/flight time combination to really do that, they're extremely sensitive to weight and have really short flight times that are hard to extend because more weight requires more power in kind of a mini version of the rocket equation.
    - pluma 8y ago
      Well, if you deploy them close to the targets, they don't need much flight time to deliver the charges. The idea is that instead of packing a truck with explosives (which create a large but very localised detonation) you just deploy a swarm of these and let them take out whatever group of people you want to target. Unlike in Black Mirror's Metalhead this isn't a scenario that requires long-lived machines. You just need them to be readily available at scale and to use facial recognition (or whatever -- the US already targets drone strikes based on cell phone signals I hear) to determine their targets. Or hey, imagine a white supremacist group (not like the US has any of those) using them to just kill people of color. Terrorism doesn't need anything approximating a 100% success rate to achieve its goal.
    - atrilumen 8y ago
      The video looks a bit in the future, but even a crude attempt at this kind of attack with what's available right now, would be terrifying.
z3phyr 8y ago
EMP? Cyber Intrusion?
frgewut 8y ago
Mosquito net is the first thing that comes to mind. Then EM pulse weapons, lasers etc.
- pluma 8y ago
  > Mosquito net That's addressed in the film. > EM pulse weapons That's not actually a thing. > lasers Aside from being impractical, this is bringing a knife to a carpet bombing. The video is about the potential of autonomous drones being used against civilian targets. Unless you put all civilians in bunkers guarded with lazors, they are irrelevant (plus of course you still have created a nightmare scenario where humans need to live in bunkers to avoid random electronic micro-terrorists).
pasta 8y ago
By caring about privacy and voting to prevent this. I believe this is also the biggest intent of Black Mirror (where I believe the video is from). For example Facebook and Google have so much data about you that a drone can track you down by using this data. Geo data, face data, habits, family and friends, you name it. Let's hope the video will never happen.
- toomanybeersies 8y ago
  The video's not actually from Black Mirror, it was an independent short film. Black Mirror does have a very similar episode though: Hated in the Nation (S03E06).

This is our future https://youtu.be/TlO2gcs1YvM https://youtu.be/TlO2gcs1YvM I’m not really sure how we counter this type of threat.

by rblatz 8y ago

This is our future https://youtu.be/TlO2gcs1YvM https://youtu.be/TlO2gcs1YvM I’m not really sure how we counter this type of threat.

krob 8y ago

Wow, mind blown, your video link scares the shit out of me.

atrilumen 8y ago
Yeah, wow; it's just an application of existing tech. very scary.
- rtkwe 8y ago
  There's a couple sizable leaps in there in particular the combination of size, payload, and autonomy for the main mini murder drones. Particularly quads/drones of that small size just don't have the payload/flight time combination to really do that, they're extremely sensitive to weight and have really short flight times that are hard to extend because more weight requires more power in kind of a mini version of the rocket equation.
  - pluma 8y ago
    Well, if you deploy them close to the targets, they don't need much flight time to deliver the charges. The idea is that instead of packing a truck with explosives (which create a large but very localised detonation) you just deploy a swarm of these and let them take out whatever group of people you want to target. Unlike in Black Mirror's Metalhead this isn't a scenario that requires long-lived machines. You just need them to be readily available at scale and to use facial recognition (or whatever -- the US already targets drone strikes based on cell phone signals I hear) to determine their targets. Or hey, imagine a white supremacist group (not like the US has any of those) using them to just kill people of color. Terrorism doesn't need anything approximating a 100% success rate to achieve its goal.
  - atrilumen 8y ago
    The video looks a bit in the future, but even a crude attempt at this kind of attack with what's available right now, would be terrifying.

z3phyr 8y ago

EMP? Cyber Intrusion?

frgewut 8y ago

Mosquito net is the first thing that comes to mind. Then EM pulse weapons, lasers etc.

pluma 8y ago
> Mosquito net That's addressed in the film. > EM pulse weapons That's not actually a thing. > lasers Aside from being impractical, this is bringing a knife to a carpet bombing. The video is about the potential of autonomous drones being used against civilian targets. Unless you put all civilians in bunkers guarded with lazors, they are irrelevant (plus of course you still have created a nightmare scenario where humans need to live in bunkers to avoid random electronic micro-terrorists).

pasta 8y ago

By caring about privacy and voting to prevent this. I believe this is also the biggest intent of Black Mirror (where I believe the video is from). For example Facebook and Google have so much data about you that a drone can track you down by using this data. Geo data, face data, habits, family and friends, you name it. Let's hope the video will never happen.

toomanybeersies 8y ago
The video's not actually from Black Mirror, it was an independent short film. Black Mirror does have a very similar episode though: Hated in the Nation (S03E06).