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As an aside, you also just opened a can of worms here. Things that can be so 'easily' attributed to a given state actor can also then be used to try to frame s
by TangoTrotFox 8y ago
As an aside, you also just opened a can of worms here.
Things that can be so 'easily' attributed to a given state actor can also then be used to try to frame said actor. Look at all the evidence, now obviously completely fake, that magically appeared when we wanted to 'prove' Iraq had WMD, even though they did not. For that matter look at the list of United States involvement in regime change [1] which is gradually turning into a novel. We make no secret, or at least declassification makes no secret, of overthrowing democratically elected governments, falsifying evidence to hurt sovereign nations, complicity to support of assassination of 'innocent' individuals, and lots of other great stuff.
I think people don't understand that propaganda doesn't mean some crackly speaker in a third world nation spewing daily praise for the divine leader. It comes and all shapes and forms, and the US is actively involved in domestic propaganda that ensures we never really appreciate all the awful things we do. In a way we, as in our intelligence agencies, are probably protected by their own impudence. Many of the things I'm listing even I have trouble believing we'd do, yet declassified documents and open acknowledgement make it complete and crystal clear that we do.
The point of this is not to say whether any party or another was involved in whatever event, but rather that trying to gauge things as an outsider based on the filtering of a news media which hungers both for clicks and war is unlikely to yield anything remotely resembling an educated opinion. We can even look to the history of Pussy Riot or this case as further examples. The victim here is not a member of Pussy Riot. His ex wife was a member. And the band themselves were not arrested for anything they said, but their behavior. They decided to stage a 'guerilla concert' inside a cathedral obviously completely against the wishes of the church and without their permission. They were charged with 'holliganism motivated by religious hatred' and sentenced to 2 years. They were released early on amnesty from the Russian duma/congress after serving most of their sentence. [2] Quite amazing what a different picture was spun by the media when all this was happening.
[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_r...
[2] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pussy_Riot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pussy_Riot