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Honestly, I feel the exact same way about your position. What could be tougher than this: U.S. Forces Killed More Than 200 Russian Fighters in Syria Attack ht
by WillPostForFood 8y ago
Honestly, I feel the exact same way about your position. What could be tougher than this:
U.S. Forces Killed More Than 200 Russian Fighters in Syria Attack
https://www.thedailybeast.com/report-us-forces-killed-more-than-200-russian-fighters-in-syria-attack https://www.thedailybeast.com/report-us-forces-killed-more-t...
And there are sanctions:
Trump administration slaps more sanctions on Russia after Skripal poisonings
https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/08/politics/us-state-department-russia-sanctions/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/08/politics/us-state-department-...
- blunte 8y agoThat is just the military industrial complex spending public money. Russia is doing the same thing. The loss of lives is clearly irrelevant to the leaders of the two countries.
- WillPostForFood 8y agoYou said, "US-legal sanctions against Russia have simply not been enacted by the Trump administration". I just showed you, from a neutral source, that they had been enacted. It is plausible that Trump owes some wealthy Russians a lot of money, but on the other hand, there is zero actual evidence that it is true. Lot's of things are plausible. It is plausible you are a Russian agent planting propaganda to undermine faith in the government, but there is zero evidence of it being true, so I wouldn't go around claiming it.
- spac 8y agoThere is actually quite a bit of evidence that Russians ran propaganda to destabilize the country. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/16/us/politics/russians-indicted-mueller-election-interference.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/16/us/politics/russians-indi...
- boomboomsubban 8y agoThey are hardly the only group guilty of that, Americans did it last year in the German election, and there isn't evidence that this is an example of Russian propaganda.
- anigbrowl 8y agoYour first example is really poor one (although this is not your fault) because there is nothing to indicate that this outcome was a factor in executive decision-making, as opposed to an unexpected outcome at ground level. Let me recommend this article as a cynical but in-depth examination of the political and military calculus surrounding the incident: https://warontherocks.com/2018/07/the-puzzle-of-russian-behavior-in-deir-al-zour/ https://warontherocks.com/2018/07/the-puzzle-of-russian-beha...
- WillPostForFood 8y agoWe know Russia was called, during and before the battle, so at a minimum, we know there was high level DoD involvement, almost certainly Mattis and McMaster. We also know Trump bragged about it afterwards. https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-reportedly-bragged-about-a-classified-battle-in-syria-2018-5 https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-reportedly-bragged-abo... It doesn't suggest someone beholden to Russia.
- int_19h 8y agoRussia wasn't called. The local commander of American forces called the local Russian commanding officer, and asked them whether the advancing columns were theirs. They said no. He then ordered a strike on the column, deeming it hostile (and rightly so). After that, Russian command started frantically calling back and demanding that the attack stop.
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- WillPostForFood 8y agoNot exactly, the call was to the Russian High Command in Syria (I stand corrected)on the "deconfliction line", but the attack was ordered from Washington, by Mattis. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5rgqSEVVIU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5rgqSEVVIU