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The complicating factor here is not that he not only refused a Full Body Scan, but that he refused to be frisked as well: On the other side I was stopped by an

The complicating factor here is not that he not only refused a Full Body Scan, but that he refused to be frisked as well: On the other side I was stopped by another agent and informed that because I had “opted out” of AIT screening, I would have to go through secondary screening. I asked for clarification to be sure he was talking about frisking me, which he confirmed, and I declined.

rbanffy 16y ago
The man is a pilot. If he ever intends to kidnap or blow up a plane, no amount of frisking will stop him. What's the next step? Functional MRI?
- michael_dorfman 16y ago
  So, anyone holding a pilot's ID card should get waived through security?
  - Devilboy 16y ago
    You just need to ID him, not search him. Check his badge, call it in if you're not sure, done.
    - michael_dorfman 16y ago
      Congratulations. You've just introduced a single point of failure to the system: anyone with a badge forged well enough to fool a security guard now has carte blanche.
      - rbanffy 16y ago
        Anyone who boards a plane as a pilot, or co-pilot, has pretty much charte blanche.
      - tomjen3 16y ago
        Not really - make all pilots have their badge authenticated at the security point with a computer fetching the image from a database and comparing it with: 1) the pilot 2) the picture of the id Done.
  - limmeau 16y ago
    If a pilot thinks he needs explosives to crash a plane, he may be overlooking something.
jacquesm 16y ago
All he'd have to do to create considerable trouble is to comply with all this nonsense and then fly the plane in to the first target of opportunity. Really, this stuff is not effective against those that you will have to trust eventually anyway.
Devilboy 16y ago
You don't search pilots, they're gonna be getting into the cockpit to fly the plane! They are uniformed, they carry clear identification badges that can be verified easily, and they probably know half the people working in the airport. You can't expect them to be groped several times a day for no good reason just to do their jobs.
- jgrahamc 16y ago
  So what do you do about a deadheading pilot in uniform with ID who's decided to crash the plane? Sorry, you should search everyone (or search totally randomly). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FedEx_Express_Flight_705 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FedEx_Express_Flight_705
  - jacquesm 16y ago
    > So what do you do about a deadheading pilot in uniform with ID who's decided to crash the plane. >> Calloway's plan was unsuccessful. The crew was able to fight back despite severe wounds, subdue him, and safely land the aircraft. << Apparently you beat the crap out of him.
    - borism 16y ago
      >>> Severe wounds >>> The crew was left with permanent, disabling injuries and have not flown professionally since.
  - wazoox 16y ago
    "Movie plot threat" anyone? Sigh...
    - jgrahamc 16y ago
      That's not a movie plot threat. The FedEx example was a real example of a disgruntled employee trying to crash a plane.
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rbanffy 16y ago

The man is a pilot. If he ever intends to kidnap or blow up a plane, no amount of frisking will stop him. What's the next step? Functional MRI?

michael_dorfman 16y ago
So, anyone holding a pilot's ID card should get waived through security?
- Devilboy 16y ago
  You just need to ID him, not search him. Check his badge, call it in if you're not sure, done.
  - michael_dorfman 16y ago
    Congratulations. You've just introduced a single point of failure to the system: anyone with a badge forged well enough to fool a security guard now has carte blanche.
    - rbanffy 16y ago
      Anyone who boards a plane as a pilot, or co-pilot, has pretty much charte blanche.
    - tomjen3 16y ago
      Not really - make all pilots have their badge authenticated at the security point with a computer fetching the image from a database and comparing it with: 1) the pilot 2) the picture of the id Done.
- limmeau 16y ago
  If a pilot thinks he needs explosives to crash a plane, he may be overlooking something.

jacquesm 16y ago

All he'd have to do to create considerable trouble is to comply with all this nonsense and then fly the plane in to the first target of opportunity. Really, this stuff is not effective against those that you will have to trust eventually anyway.

Devilboy 16y ago

You don't search pilots, they're gonna be getting into the cockpit to fly the plane! They are uniformed, they carry clear identification badges that can be verified easily, and they probably know half the people working in the airport. You can't expect them to be groped several times a day for no good reason just to do their jobs.

jgrahamc 16y ago
So what do you do about a deadheading pilot in uniform with ID who's decided to crash the plane? Sorry, you should search everyone (or search totally randomly). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FedEx_Express_Flight_705 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FedEx_Express_Flight_705
- jacquesm 16y ago
  > So what do you do about a deadheading pilot in uniform with ID who's decided to crash the plane. >> Calloway's plan was unsuccessful. The crew was able to fight back despite severe wounds, subdue him, and safely land the aircraft. << Apparently you beat the crap out of him.
  - borism 16y ago
    >>> Severe wounds >>> The crew was left with permanent, disabling injuries and have not flown professionally since.
- wazoox 16y ago
  "Movie plot threat" anyone? Sigh...
  - jgrahamc 16y ago
    That's not a movie plot threat. The FedEx example was a real example of a disgruntled employee trying to crash a plane.
    - 16y ago

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