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Weren't people reporting that they were seeing BlackHawk helicopters around the installation. Seems awfully overkill for a child porn probe.

• rootusrootus 8y ago
  People make terrible witnesses. If they did see a helicopter, it was probably a news copter and not a Blackhawk.
• partiallypro 8y ago
  It's really close to a US Air force base...it's entirely possible the helicopters were just coincidence. That being said, I had sort of leaned toward it being a case of espionage that had been busted...so, this -could- be a cover story. I don't know why they'd lie about it though, unless it involved an ally. I think the stranger parts were that they shut down surrounding areas/homes and even the local post office. That still to me makes no sense with just a child porn ring.
  • sigacts 8y ago
    The FBI shut down the entire site, which is made up of several buildings. There was a small post office in one of those buildings.
• reaperducer 8y ago
  Weren't people reporting that they were seeing BlackHawk helicopters around the installation. A lot of military aircraft were relocated around the country because of the hurricane. Plus, the average person couldn’t tell a Blackhawk helicopter from a Blackhawk hockey player.
  • DoreenMichele 8y ago
    You are exaggerating, but, yeah, most civilians don't know the difference between a Bradley fighting vehicle and a tank. When I was a kid, my cousin and I would lay in the grass in the front yard and watch the house across the street and basically spin the slightest shadow or bit of wind or what not into some tall tale for entertainment, being very serious and like we were actually onto some X Files style mystery and had the detective skills of Sherlock Holmes.
    • psergeant 8y ago
      > yeah, most civilians don't know the difference between a Bradley fighting vehicle and a tank Most ancient Jews couldn’t have told you the difference between whales and fish, either. Some distinctions just don’t matter most of the time: http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/21/the-categories-were-made-for-man-not-man-for-the-categories/ http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/21/the-categories-were-mad...
      • DoreenMichele 8y ago
        That's true. And irrelevant. The point is that we have statements that may not be reliable.
  • samstave 8y ago
    to be fair, helicopter tails and hockey sticks are awfully similar in shape...
• closeparen 8y ago
  Isn’t the site pretty remote? Maybe it’s just an expedient method for traveling there.
  • LyndsySimon 8y ago
    I want to say it’s a 15 minute drive from Alamogordo.
    • mythrwy 8y ago
      It's around 15 miles but up a windy mountain. More like a 40 minute drive.
• ObsoleteNerd 8y ago
  People keep saying it could be coincidence because of the nearby military base, but the Sheriff himself was the one quoted, and you'd assume he'd know the difference between a random Blackhawk flying nearby because of the base, and one actually coming to the town? > "There was a Black Hawk helicopter, a bunch of people around antennas and work crews on towers but nobody would tell us anything," Sheriff House explained Not to mention, ELEVEN days because of a laptop seeding child porn? I'm usually the first to assume the non-conspiracy option, but this doesn't even come close to passing the sniff test.
  • stjohnswarts 8y ago
    Yep 11 days to get a janitor -- definitely a "Roswell" incident here ;)
    • ObsoleteNerd 8y ago
      It only took 11 days for the aliens to realise we weren't worth their time and leave.