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And I was reading this today http://tortoisesvn.net/howpaypalscrewsopensourceprojects http://tortoisesvn.net/howpaypalscrewsopensourceprojects ouch

by sams99 16y ago

metachris 16y ago
More on this topic: * http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/ticket/13993 http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/ticket/13993 * http://sourceforge.net/blog/warning-to-open-source-projects-know-your-rights-with-paypal/ http://sourceforge.net/blog/warning-to-open-source-projects-... I didn't realize PayPal also froze the account of the developer of minecraft (containing about €600,000): * http://notch.tumblr.com/post/1096322756/working-on-a-friday-update-crying-over-paypal http://notch.tumblr.com/post/1096322756/working-on-a-friday-... * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PayPal#Criticism_and_limitations http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PayPal#Criticism_and_limitation...
- citricsquid 16y ago
  The Minecraft story isn't a good example. Markus had an account taking maybe 1k euros a day for around a year, then suddenly in a month it shoots up to 100k euros a day. It would have been negligent of Paypal not to temporarily suspend payments when someone without a history of taking that much money suddenly does. The solution is not to build a business around Paypal. If Paypal suspending an account you operate for 14 days is going to cripple your business you should look into new solutions.
  - invisible 16y ago
    As far as I can tell it was more than 2 weeks (or may still be a problem currently). I don't think freezing all of the money for an account because of some chargebacks and/or fraud should be what Paypal does. I understand if they need to freeze a certain amount - but make a phone call to the person when it concerns more than half a million dollars. Why collect phone information if they never use it to call in extreme cases?
    - citricsquid 16y ago
      It is no longer a problem, unless you count Paypal requiring that he retains at least 5% of total transactions in his account (until the start of 2011) as being a problem. It should also be noted that many people have filed charge back requests for Minecraft through Paypal and their credit card companies, Minecraft has virtually no customer service, so when Paypal see sudden huge volumes of payments and lots of charge back requests it seems mighty suspicious. It seems to me like part of an investigation would be waiting to see if any more complaints come through and something bad is discovered.

And I was reading this today http://tortoisesvn.net/howpaypalscrewsopensourceprojects http://tortoisesvn.net/howpaypalscrewsopensourceprojects ouch

by sams99 16y ago

And I was reading this today http://tortoisesvn.net/howpaypalscrewsopensourceprojects http://tortoisesvn.net/howpaypalscrewsopensourceprojects ouch

metachris 16y ago

More on this topic: * http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/ticket/13993 http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/ticket/13993 * http://sourceforge.net/blog/warning-to-open-source-projects-know-your-rights-with-paypal/ http://sourceforge.net/blog/warning-to-open-source-projects-... I didn't realize PayPal also froze the account of the developer of minecraft (containing about €600,000): * http://notch.tumblr.com/post/1096322756/working-on-a-friday-update-crying-over-paypal http://notch.tumblr.com/post/1096322756/working-on-a-friday-... * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PayPal#Criticism_and_limitations http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PayPal#Criticism_and_limitation...

citricsquid 16y ago
The Minecraft story isn't a good example. Markus had an account taking maybe 1k euros a day for around a year, then suddenly in a month it shoots up to 100k euros a day. It would have been negligent of Paypal not to temporarily suspend payments when someone without a history of taking that much money suddenly does. The solution is not to build a business around Paypal. If Paypal suspending an account you operate for 14 days is going to cripple your business you should look into new solutions.
- invisible 16y ago
  As far as I can tell it was more than 2 weeks (or may still be a problem currently). I don't think freezing all of the money for an account because of some chargebacks and/or fraud should be what Paypal does. I understand if they need to freeze a certain amount - but make a phone call to the person when it concerns more than half a million dollars. Why collect phone information if they never use it to call in extreme cases?
  - citricsquid 16y ago
    It is no longer a problem, unless you count Paypal requiring that he retains at least 5% of total transactions in his account (until the start of 2011) as being a problem. It should also be noted that many people have filed charge back requests for Minecraft through Paypal and their credit card companies, Minecraft has virtually no customer service, so when Paypal see sudden huge volumes of payments and lots of charge back requests it seems mighty suspicious. It seems to me like part of an investigation would be waiting to see if any more complaints come through and something bad is discovered.