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I am interested in upgrading my GPU. I am a bit disappointed on the performance of the 2080 for most games out now, but the future could be very pretty! The 208

I am interested in upgrading my GPU. I am a bit disappointed on the performance of the 2080 for most games out now, but the future could be very pretty! The 2080TI seems real impressive, but that cost makes my eyes water a little. I suppose I will hold out a little longer and see what AMD releases next.

SketchySeaBeast 8y ago
It honestly doesn't seem like a large enough performance jump when you consider the price jump as well - last gen you could get a 980 Ti's performance for a mid-range cards price, but now you get a little more than a 1080 Ti's performance... for the price of a 1080 Ti. Seems like a weird shift. They've expanded the price range, but not the value. I'm glad I picked up a 1070 at the very beginning of its life, seems like it was the perfect time for that (before the Bitcoin craze). I really hope that AMD keeps up this generation - the Vega's were too little too late - you shouldn't be going toe to toe with NVidia a year after NVidia's cards come out at the same price point. I would much prefer an AMD card though - AMD seems much less user hostile, and if I'm going to lock myself into a display I want to lock into one that doesn't cost me hundreds of dollars more for the same product. It would make me incredibly happy to be fully AMD for my next PC build (I ran AMD chips since the 486-66 days until intel's "i" series), but only time will tell if they can get their act together this year and actually compete in the mid-high end space.
- kart23 8y ago
  It's for people who want the best 4k gaming experience. As shown in the benchmarks, at 1080p, it really isnt beating the previous cards by much. If you are the kind of guy who can spend a lot of money on a 4k monitor, you probably are going to want a card that can drive that. If you are only doing HD, then yeah, a 1080/1070 will be great. They charge the premium because they know nothing else can do 4k like the 20 series.
  - saiya-jin 8y ago
    You are right, but there also lies a problem - even 2080ti pulls barely 60fps at best today's top games, sometimes not even that. Meaning games whose development started around the time when 1080 were introduced. The new ones will be much more demanding, and even if more clever antialiasing helps, that's only small part of performance. I mean, 2080 is +- on par with 1080ti - this is 3 years of development in top graphic card segment? For sure it will find its buyers, but this group will be tiny - pro gamers, people who have too much money, and maybe once there are some proper VR games then vive pro/oculus. I am currently looking for an update over my old 760 gtx, but since I play in 1080p (actually 1200p), I think 1070 will suffice. Anyway for the type of single player games I play it will be enough in details for years to come. And the simple fact is, after 1 hour of gameplay I don't care much about some details.
    - SketchySeaBeast 8y ago
      > You are right, but there also lies a problem - even 2080ti pulls barely 60fps at best today's top games, sometimes not even that. Meaning games whose development started around the time when 1080 were introduced. The new ones will be much more demanding, and even if more clever antialiasing helps, that's only small part of performance. The problem here is that the 2080ti's performance increase is proportional to it's cost increase - we've really gained no more bang for our buck, they've just given us a bigger buck to spend, which is fine if you have it, but I'll bet most people won't. The fancy new AA is just a great way for NVidiia to spread the gap a bit to make it look more worthwhile to buy these new cards - without it nobody would be impressed by the performance. > I am currently looking for an update over my old 760 gtx, but since I play in 1080p (actually 1200p), I think 1070 will suffice. The 1070 is a rock solid card, but I'd probably wait to see where the 2070 sits on the price performance curve. The 1070 would be a HUGE upgrade from what you have right now, but assuming that the 2070 isn't priced like a 1080 of last gen it could be a very solidly performing card for a rational price (assuming they didn't price this one up to match whatever equivalent it has for last gen), and give you just that much more room to stretch out your next upgrade. I normally hate the "wait until the next gen comes out" philosophy as there's always a new gen coming, but this seems prudent as I imagine we are ~ 1 month away.
extragood 8y ago
Are you a bot that submits the first comment as your own on hacker news, or do you take the time and effort to copy and paste by hand? Your arstechnica handle could be pearrich, but that comment was submitted several hours before this one was.

SketchySeaBeast 8y ago

It honestly doesn't seem like a large enough performance jump when you consider the price jump as well - last gen you could get a 980 Ti's performance for a mid-range cards price, but now you get a little more than a 1080 Ti's performance... for the price of a 1080 Ti. Seems like a weird shift. They've expanded the price range, but not the value. I'm glad I picked up a 1070 at the very beginning of its life, seems like it was the perfect time for that (before the Bitcoin craze). I really hope that AMD keeps up this generation - the Vega's were too little too late - you shouldn't be going toe to toe with NVidia a year after NVidia's cards come out at the same price point. I would much prefer an AMD card though - AMD seems much less user hostile, and if I'm going to lock myself into a display I want to lock into one that doesn't cost me hundreds of dollars more for the same product. It would make me incredibly happy to be fully AMD for my next PC build (I ran AMD chips since the 486-66 days until intel's "i" series), but only time will tell if they can get their act together this year and actually compete in the mid-high end space.

kart23 8y ago
It's for people who want the best 4k gaming experience. As shown in the benchmarks, at 1080p, it really isnt beating the previous cards by much. If you are the kind of guy who can spend a lot of money on a 4k monitor, you probably are going to want a card that can drive that. If you are only doing HD, then yeah, a 1080/1070 will be great. They charge the premium because they know nothing else can do 4k like the 20 series.
- saiya-jin 8y ago
  You are right, but there also lies a problem - even 2080ti pulls barely 60fps at best today's top games, sometimes not even that. Meaning games whose development started around the time when 1080 were introduced. The new ones will be much more demanding, and even if more clever antialiasing helps, that's only small part of performance. I mean, 2080 is +- on par with 1080ti - this is 3 years of development in top graphic card segment? For sure it will find its buyers, but this group will be tiny - pro gamers, people who have too much money, and maybe once there are some proper VR games then vive pro/oculus. I am currently looking for an update over my old 760 gtx, but since I play in 1080p (actually 1200p), I think 1070 will suffice. Anyway for the type of single player games I play it will be enough in details for years to come. And the simple fact is, after 1 hour of gameplay I don't care much about some details.
  - SketchySeaBeast 8y ago
    > You are right, but there also lies a problem - even 2080ti pulls barely 60fps at best today's top games, sometimes not even that. Meaning games whose development started around the time when 1080 were introduced. The new ones will be much more demanding, and even if more clever antialiasing helps, that's only small part of performance. The problem here is that the 2080ti's performance increase is proportional to it's cost increase - we've really gained no more bang for our buck, they've just given us a bigger buck to spend, which is fine if you have it, but I'll bet most people won't. The fancy new AA is just a great way for NVidiia to spread the gap a bit to make it look more worthwhile to buy these new cards - without it nobody would be impressed by the performance. > I am currently looking for an update over my old 760 gtx, but since I play in 1080p (actually 1200p), I think 1070 will suffice. The 1070 is a rock solid card, but I'd probably wait to see where the 2070 sits on the price performance curve. The 1070 would be a HUGE upgrade from what you have right now, but assuming that the 2070 isn't priced like a 1080 of last gen it could be a very solidly performing card for a rational price (assuming they didn't price this one up to match whatever equivalent it has for last gen), and give you just that much more room to stretch out your next upgrade. I normally hate the "wait until the next gen comes out" philosophy as there's always a new gen coming, but this seems prudent as I imagine we are ~ 1 month away.

extragood 8y ago

Are you a bot that submits the first comment as your own on hacker news, or do you take the time and effort to copy and paste by hand? Your arstechnica handle could be pearrich, but that comment was submitted several hours before this one was.