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>Tell that to an evolutionary biologist and they will laugh in your face. Wait... you already did that. I'm laughing. Evolutionary biology, compare to lets say

>Tell that to an evolutionary biologist and they will laugh in your face. Wait... you already did that. I'm laughing. Evolutionary biology, compare to lets say mathematics where my roots are, has a very large part which is "interpretation" and which is very susceptible to whatever is dictated by the current authority in the science (and/or by political climate). With regard to laughing - how about evolution biologists who thinks that evolution, a large statistical dynamic system process, has produced different bodies for males and females (or are you going to argue that as well?) efficiently reflecting specialization, and ignored for the reason of PolitCorrectness another available degree of freedom extremely important in the context of the specialization - mental abilities, brain (especially considering that for K-selection behavioral/mental characteristics may be playing comparable or even more important role than pure physical body characteristics) > Consequently they have superior navigation skills to the females who never leave their burrows. For many, many generations ... Are you, as evolutionary biologist, saying that female squirrels have the same abilities to develop such navigational skills? When did they develop them? While never using? Let suppose they did develop them in some past. Thus we can suppose the abilities are just dormant now. May be the female squirrels also have dormant penises?

araneae 16y ago
>- how about evolution biologists who thinks that evolution, a large statistical dynamic system process, has produced different bodies for males and females (or are you going to argue that as well?) efficiently reflecting specialization, and ignored for the reason of PolitCorrectness another available degree of freedom extremely important in the context of the specialization I actually have no idea what the sentence actually said, but somewhere in there I think you're implying that some evolutionary biologists for reasons of political correctness believe that male and female human brains are identical. Like I said, most humans rationalize. I have no excuse for them. But in my experience, the stereotype is the opposite, see: http://xkcd.com/775/ http://xkcd.com/775/ >For many, many generations ... Are you, as evolutionary biologist, saying that female squirrels have the same abilities to develop such navigational skills? Um. If the burrows were passed along paternally instead of maternally, and it was the female squirrels that moved about and the male squirrels that stayed in their borrows, I would expect that, yes? I'm not really sure what your point is. Or why you're talking about squirrel penis. Surely you don't think that male and female specializations are the same across species, do you? Because if so, let me see you wiggle your chest air sack: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sage_grouse http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sage_grouse http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0M8pZnNlnI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0M8pZnNlnI
- VladRussian 16y ago
  >Um. If the burrows were passed along paternally instead of maternally, and it was the female squirrels that moved about and the male squirrels that stayed in their borrows, you must be kidding. "If". If a grandmother had balls, it would be a grandfather.
  - araneae 16y ago
    The definition of the female is the sex with the larger gamete, not whether it is good at navigating. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female#Defining_characteristics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female#Defining_characteristics In the jacana, the males are the ones that are smaller and incubate the eggs (sitting on them to keep them warm), and the females are the bigger ones that go out and procure food, but the one that's called the female is the one that laid the egg. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacana http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacana

araneae 16y ago

>- how about evolution biologists who thinks that evolution, a large statistical dynamic system process, has produced different bodies for males and females (or are you going to argue that as well?) efficiently reflecting specialization, and ignored for the reason of PolitCorrectness another available degree of freedom extremely important in the context of the specialization I actually have no idea what the sentence actually said, but somewhere in there I think you're implying that some evolutionary biologists for reasons of political correctness believe that male and female human brains are identical. Like I said, most humans rationalize. I have no excuse for them. But in my experience, the stereotype is the opposite, see: http://xkcd.com/775/ http://xkcd.com/775/ >For many, many generations ... Are you, as evolutionary biologist, saying that female squirrels have the same abilities to develop such navigational skills? Um. If the burrows were passed along paternally instead of maternally, and it was the female squirrels that moved about and the male squirrels that stayed in their borrows, I would expect that, yes? I'm not really sure what your point is. Or why you're talking about squirrel penis. Surely you don't think that male and female specializations are the same across species, do you? Because if so, let me see you wiggle your chest air sack: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sage_grouse http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sage_grouse http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0M8pZnNlnI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0M8pZnNlnI

VladRussian 16y ago
>Um. If the burrows were passed along paternally instead of maternally, and it was the female squirrels that moved about and the male squirrels that stayed in their borrows, you must be kidding. "If". If a grandmother had balls, it would be a grandfather.
- araneae 16y ago
  The definition of the female is the sex with the larger gamete, not whether it is good at navigating. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female#Defining_characteristics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female#Defining_characteristics In the jacana, the males are the ones that are smaller and incubate the eggs (sitting on them to keep them warm), and the females are the bigger ones that go out and procure food, but the one that's called the female is the one that laid the egg. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacana http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacana