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> has been used to try to evict Rod Vagg Isn't the key distinction here the word `try`? He was not actually removed. In order to criticize the enforcement of a

> has been used to try to evict Rod Vagg Isn't the key distinction here the word `try`? He was not actually removed. In order to criticize the enforcement of a CoC doesn't that require an example of some actual enforcement?

malvosenior 8y ago
How much energy went into not having him get evicted? The CoCs invite witch hunts and time wasting.
- moreoutput 8y ago
  Indeed, now everyone can contribute to the kernel.
  - toomuchtodo 8y ago
    This makes the assumption this delivers more value to the kernel code base; to be proven.
    - moreoutput 8y ago
      Sorry, I meant for that to be sarcastic.
      - toomuchtodo 8y ago
        Sorry, I didn’t pick up on it.
bjt2n3904 8y ago
"Sure, we dragged you through a three month trial and held you in jail, but you were declared innocent! What are you all stuffed up about? The system worked!"
chroma 8y ago
This is sort of like almost being hit by a car and thinking, "Well I didn't get hit. I don't need to pay more attention when crossing the street." Also, Rod had to fight tooth and nail to keep his position. Things could have easily gone the other way. But here's an example of a code of conduct/ethics being enforced unfairly. Douglas Crockford was removed as keynote speaker from the Nodevember conference.[1] Apparently because some people thought he violated the conference's code of ethics. Summaries of the whole kerfuffle can be found here.[2][3] 1. https://twitter.com/nodevember/status/771520648191483904 https://twitter.com/nodevember/status/771520648191483904 2. https://paulstraw.svbtle.com/crockford https://paulstraw.svbtle.com/crockford 3. https://medium.com/the-mission/pr-nightmares-when-political-correctness-goes-too-far-829674495114 https://medium.com/the-mission/pr-nightmares-when-political-...
chronid 8y ago
"Today we were unlucky, but remember we only have to be lucky once. You will have to be lucky always."

malvosenior 8y ago

How much energy went into not having him get evicted? The CoCs invite witch hunts and time wasting.

moreoutput 8y ago
Indeed, now everyone can contribute to the kernel.
- toomuchtodo 8y ago
  This makes the assumption this delivers more value to the kernel code base; to be proven.
  - moreoutput 8y ago
    Sorry, I meant for that to be sarcastic.
    - toomuchtodo 8y ago
      Sorry, I didn’t pick up on it.

bjt2n3904 8y ago

"Sure, we dragged you through a three month trial and held you in jail, but you were declared innocent! What are you all stuffed up about? The system worked!"

chroma 8y ago

This is sort of like almost being hit by a car and thinking, "Well I didn't get hit. I don't need to pay more attention when crossing the street." Also, Rod had to fight tooth and nail to keep his position. Things could have easily gone the other way. But here's an example of a code of conduct/ethics being enforced unfairly. Douglas Crockford was removed as keynote speaker from the Nodevember conference.[1] Apparently because some people thought he violated the conference's code of ethics. Summaries of the whole kerfuffle can be found here.[2][3] 1. https://twitter.com/nodevember/status/771520648191483904 https://twitter.com/nodevember/status/771520648191483904 2. https://paulstraw.svbtle.com/crockford https://paulstraw.svbtle.com/crockford 3. https://medium.com/the-mission/pr-nightmares-when-political-correctness-goes-too-far-829674495114 https://medium.com/the-mission/pr-nightmares-when-political-...

chronid 8y ago

"Today we were unlucky, but remember we only have to be lucky once. You will have to be lucky always."