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I have found it best to not talk about any psychological pathology with anyone that does not understand it(no one really understands but some people understand

I have found it best to not talk about any psychological pathology with anyone that does not understand it(no one really understands but some people understand that they don't understand). You can mention the symptoms, but don't label it, as soon as you insert the word autism, schizophrenia, depression people will apply their own preconceived deeply flawed interpretations of the problem.

draw_down 8y ago
Yeah, I just can’t imagine ever doing this. It seems like a terrible idea.
notyourday 8y ago
Disclosing anything not directly related to the work (i.e. health/future plans/dreams/difficulties/struggles) at work is a terrible idea. Every single person who thinks or advocates otherwise lives in a bubble -- betting on a correct outcome is no difficult than betting on rationality of the market. Remember, market can be irrational for longer than you can remain solvent.
- callesgg 8y ago
  That really depends on what you want out of your workplace. If all you want is money to fuel the rest of your life then i think you are on point. Personally i think life is to short/demanding, one needs to find an appropriate balance between work and personal life. I would rather have the people at work be friends than foes.
  - dasyatidprime 8y ago
    Did you mean “friends”, or am I not getting the pun?
    - callesgg 8y ago
      Yes i did mean friends:)
  - notyourday 8y ago
    > That really depends on what you want out of your workplace. In order for it to be a workplace, one needs not to be fired/let go/reorganized out of the workplace.
  - EpicEng 8y ago
    >I would rather have the people at work be friends than foes Sure, but for how many of us is that going to be a reality? You have to protect yourself, and the vast majority of people work for a paycheck because there is no other option.
  - draw_down 8y ago
    I don't think this issue of disclosure is about being friends at work, not really. In different venues, I've come across this idea of "bringing your whole self to work", and I think this issue of disclosure falls along these lines. It seems to be the new mantra. I don't want to bring my whole self to work, I don't want to identify with my job or my company or see myself as part of a tribe. As far as my job is concerned I just want to do good work. And so I really don't identify with this notion. I would say that at this point, the relationship between employee and employer is generally rather adversarial. I accept the situation such as it is, but I don't relish that. I don't want to bring my whole self to that. I want to wall my real self off from that. I have a job because I need money to do the things I actually want to do. So in that sense, sure "all I want is money". That is a normal reaction to how things are.
- chimeracoder 8y ago
  > Disclosing anything not directly related to the work (i.e. health/future plans/dreams/difficulties/struggles) at work is a terrible idea. Every single person who thinks or advocates otherwise lives in a bubble -- betting on a correct outcome is no difficult than betting on rationality of the market. Just to be clear, what you are describing is a world in which nobody could (or should) ever request or receive reasonable accommodations under the ADA.
wwwater 8y ago
On one hand it's true and people will apply their preconceived interpretations, on the other hand if nobody talks about it these interpretations and biases will never change. People have these biases because they don't know anybody with autism/schizophrenia/depression personally, but once they know and realize that it's a human just like them, they could understand it better.

draw_down 8y ago

Yeah, I just can’t imagine ever doing this. It seems like a terrible idea.

notyourday 8y ago

Disclosing anything not directly related to the work (i.e. health/future plans/dreams/difficulties/struggles) at work is a terrible idea. Every single person who thinks or advocates otherwise lives in a bubble -- betting on a correct outcome is no difficult than betting on rationality of the market. Remember, market can be irrational for longer than you can remain solvent.

callesgg 8y ago
That really depends on what you want out of your workplace. If all you want is money to fuel the rest of your life then i think you are on point. Personally i think life is to short/demanding, one needs to find an appropriate balance between work and personal life. I would rather have the people at work be friends than foes.
- dasyatidprime 8y ago
  Did you mean “friends”, or am I not getting the pun?
  - callesgg 8y ago
    Yes i did mean friends:)
- notyourday 8y ago
  > That really depends on what you want out of your workplace. In order for it to be a workplace, one needs not to be fired/let go/reorganized out of the workplace.
- EpicEng 8y ago
  >I would rather have the people at work be friends than foes Sure, but for how many of us is that going to be a reality? You have to protect yourself, and the vast majority of people work for a paycheck because there is no other option.
- draw_down 8y ago
  I don't think this issue of disclosure is about being friends at work, not really. In different venues, I've come across this idea of "bringing your whole self to work", and I think this issue of disclosure falls along these lines. It seems to be the new mantra. I don't want to bring my whole self to work, I don't want to identify with my job or my company or see myself as part of a tribe. As far as my job is concerned I just want to do good work. And so I really don't identify with this notion. I would say that at this point, the relationship between employee and employer is generally rather adversarial. I accept the situation such as it is, but I don't relish that. I don't want to bring my whole self to that. I want to wall my real self off from that. I have a job because I need money to do the things I actually want to do. So in that sense, sure "all I want is money". That is a normal reaction to how things are.
chimeracoder 8y ago
> Disclosing anything not directly related to the work (i.e. health/future plans/dreams/difficulties/struggles) at work is a terrible idea. Every single person who thinks or advocates otherwise lives in a bubble -- betting on a correct outcome is no difficult than betting on rationality of the market. Just to be clear, what you are describing is a world in which nobody could (or should) ever request or receive reasonable accommodations under the ADA.

wwwater 8y ago

On one hand it's true and people will apply their preconceived interpretations, on the other hand if nobody talks about it these interpretations and biases will never change. People have these biases because they don't know anybody with autism/schizophrenia/depression personally, but once they know and realize that it's a human just like them, they could understand it better.