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> To be nitpicky, in the US, engineer means you graduated from an ABET accredited program in something like: Chemical engineering, mechanical engineering, civil

by vostok 8y ago

> To be nitpicky, in the US, engineer means you graduated from an ABET accredited program in something like: Chemical engineering, mechanical engineering, civil engineering, electrical engineering, industrial engineering, computer engineering....etc. Do you happen to have a reference for this? At first glance, it seems to be incorrect rather than nitpicky. Anecdotally, I know plenty of people who do not have ABET accredited degrees and have "engineer" in their title in the US.

codazoda 8y ago
Some even have engineer in their titles with no degree at all.
3rdAccount 8y ago
Unless you have a professional engineers license, you can't testify in court as an engineer. To get a professional engineer's license, you must graduate from an ABET accredited program.
- learc83 8y ago
  Since we're being nitpicky, neither of those claims are true. >To get a professional engineer's license, you must graduate from an ABET accredited program. In some states you can take the FE and PE exam with a related non-ABET accredited degree and work experience based, and in some states you can take the exams with no degree based on experience only. For example, NY let's you substitute work experience for a degree. There's a table where you can see how much experience you need based on your degree (or lack of one). >Unless you have a professional engineers license, you can't testify in court as an engineer Courts determine what credentials qualify someone to testify as an expert witness, not state licensing boards. In some states, testifying in court as an engineer does qualify as practicing engineering without a license, and the state licensing board could fine you after the fact. However, in other states testifying in court doesn’t necessarily qualify as practicing engineering.
whoisthemachine 8y ago
Someone can certainly call themselves an "engineer", but it doesn't have the same consequences as someone who has received an ABET accredited engineering degree... for example, if you've graduated from an ABET accredited engineering degree, you are able to become a licensed and registered professional engineer - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_and_licensure_in_engineering#Requirements https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_and_licensure_in_en....
ldarby 8y ago
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/vvapy4/man-fined-dollar500-for-crime-of-writing-i-am-an-engineer-in-an-email-to-the-government https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/vvapy4/man-fined-... (There are lots of other articles about that case, that one sums it up mostly in the url)
- learc83 8y ago
  The OP says "the US". That article is one state in the US. Most states don't have restrictions on the use of Engineer in job titles. Canada does though.

by vostok 8y ago

codazoda 8y ago

Some even have engineer in their titles with no degree at all.

3rdAccount 8y ago

Unless you have a professional engineers license, you can't testify in court as an engineer. To get a professional engineer's license, you must graduate from an ABET accredited program.

learc83 8y ago
Since we're being nitpicky, neither of those claims are true. >To get a professional engineer's license, you must graduate from an ABET accredited program. In some states you can take the FE and PE exam with a related non-ABET accredited degree and work experience based, and in some states you can take the exams with no degree based on experience only. For example, NY let's you substitute work experience for a degree. There's a table where you can see how much experience you need based on your degree (or lack of one). >Unless you have a professional engineers license, you can't testify in court as an engineer Courts determine what credentials qualify someone to testify as an expert witness, not state licensing boards. In some states, testifying in court as an engineer does qualify as practicing engineering without a license, and the state licensing board could fine you after the fact. However, in other states testifying in court doesn’t necessarily qualify as practicing engineering.

whoisthemachine 8y ago

Someone can certainly call themselves an "engineer", but it doesn't have the same consequences as someone who has received an ABET accredited engineering degree... for example, if you've graduated from an ABET accredited engineering degree, you are able to become a licensed and registered professional engineer - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_and_licensure_in_engineering#Requirements https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_and_licensure_in_en....

ldarby 8y ago

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/vvapy4/man-fined-dollar500-for-crime-of-writing-i-am-an-engineer-in-an-email-to-the-government https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/vvapy4/man-fined-... (There are lots of other articles about that case, that one sums it up mostly in the url)

learc83 8y ago
The OP says "the US". That article is one state in the US. Most states don't have restrictions on the use of Engineer in job titles. Canada does though.