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The suggestion that the advantages that AMP purports to bring can be better realized instead with just lean websites that aren't full of obtrusive Javascript an
by niftich 8y ago
The suggestion that the advantages that AMP purports to bring can be better realized instead with just lean websites that aren't full of obtrusive Javascript and dynamic ads seems to entirely miss the fact that just-in-time ad auctions, made possible by scripting in the browser, are a critical revenue source for outfits that publish text and (and short video) content on the web at upfront cost. This makes for awful UX, but expecting publishers to forego most types of display ads is simplistic.
AMP raises the standards for ad networks and ad formats [1], and has hooks for analytics [2], giving publishers the features they -- well, at least, their marketing and engagement folks -- want, while insulating them from the most desperate attempts of adtech monetization that they'd otherwise feel the pressure to add. Therefore, AMP provides a story for business models [3] -- and fits into Google's vision where they provide solutions to derive revenue from content, either through ads, or through a user payment scheme [4].
[1] https://www.ampproject.org/docs/ads/introduction_ads https://www.ampproject.org/docs/ads/introduction_ads
[2] https://www.ampproject.org/docs/analytics/analytics_amp https://www.ampproject.org/docs/analytics/analytics_amp
[3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12273447 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12273447
[4] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18006178 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18006178
- kodablah 8y agoThat this can't be done server side speaks volumes about their real goals. From your first link: > The AMP Project's goals are to do what's best for the user by helping to deliver fast web pages. Clearly what they mean is best for revenue THEN users. This deception makes it clear they will not compromise on revenue (such as requiring server-side ads as img elements). Inability to compromise is quite the opposite of being sympathetic towards critiques and putting forth effort to address complaints. Let's meet in the middle for the user's sake...have your ads, lose your client-side JS. But no, and then they wonder why it gets backlash.
- lvs 8y agoYou're absolutely right about this, and the casual dismissal from GP is the kind of attitude that landed us in the scenario that AMP claims (ostensibly) to fix.