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>Under the current system, if the most meritorious student's family makes over $130K, he/she is saddled with debt... I live in the Rice U neighborhood. (Museum

>Under the current system, if the most meritorious student's family makes over $130K, he/she is saddled with debt... I live in the Rice U neighborhood. (Museum District). I'm very familiar with Rice. Believe me, if your hypothetical student really were the "most meritorious" student at Rice University, she would already have a full ride scholarship. And if your "most meritorious" student at Rice University does NOT have a full ride scholarship, then she is not the "most meritorious" student at Rice. The types of financial programs in question are for students who are qualified enough to get into Rice, but whose families are not well resourced enough to pay for Rice. These sorts of programs are laudable, and they are exactly what we need to be doing. There are "country bumpkins" from Angleton and Nacogdoches who are as ready to enter Rice as the sheltered kids behind the gates down Sunset in Houston. It's a GOOD thing that Rice is affording those less privileged children that opportunity.

mankash666 8y ago
What happens after Rice? Is everyone graduating equal, or do we need to apply the "privileged children" label to some? What is your recommendation to companies that go to Rice for hiring? Hire the best - whatever their objective definition of best is (which I presume doesn't have a privilege filter)?
- angersock 8y ago
  What is your recommendation to companies that go to Rice for hiring? If it's for CS, don't bother. The kids're mainly set on FANG and while they're somewhat skilled the ones that show up at fairs are pretty milquetoast. If you want the smart ones who aren't risk-averse, look at who's drinking at Valhalla. Also, look for graduates of Wong's 410/415 sequence if it's still offered.
  - bilbo0s 8y ago
    >If it's for CS, don't bother... True. If it's for CS... get an Uber or Lyft from Rice University to Hobby Airport and get on a plane to San Fran so you can go interview the Stanford grads instead. Those guys are second to none.
    - angersock 8y ago
      Not quite what I was getting at. It's more that, as a hiring fair thing, you're gonna be running up against the folks that are looking for enterprisey (say, Schlumberger) or FANG jobs. The culture there isn't one that is super startup-friendly.
- bilbo0s 8y ago
  >What happens after Rice? ??? Who cares? The object here is to get talented people an education. What they do with that education is their decision. The owners of your hypothetical company can do whatever they please with the educations they have obtained over the course of their lifetimes. And the students, who now have an opportunity at a cost free education, can similarly do whatever they please with the educations they obtained. It's called freedom. Take all the educations we've been providing and go out and enjoy all the freedoms you have. Maybe I'm not understanding your view correctly? What, exactly, is the problem with allowing poor or middle class students into Rice at a reduced rate? (Or even free in most cases)?

mankash666 8y ago

What happens after Rice? Is everyone graduating equal, or do we need to apply the "privileged children" label to some? What is your recommendation to companies that go to Rice for hiring? Hire the best - whatever their objective definition of best is (which I presume doesn't have a privilege filter)?

angersock 8y ago
What is your recommendation to companies that go to Rice for hiring? If it's for CS, don't bother. The kids're mainly set on FANG and while they're somewhat skilled the ones that show up at fairs are pretty milquetoast. If you want the smart ones who aren't risk-averse, look at who's drinking at Valhalla. Also, look for graduates of Wong's 410/415 sequence if it's still offered.
- bilbo0s 8y ago
  >If it's for CS, don't bother... True. If it's for CS... get an Uber or Lyft from Rice University to Hobby Airport and get on a plane to San Fran so you can go interview the Stanford grads instead. Those guys are second to none.
  - angersock 8y ago
    Not quite what I was getting at. It's more that, as a hiring fair thing, you're gonna be running up against the folks that are looking for enterprisey (say, Schlumberger) or FANG jobs. The culture there isn't one that is super startup-friendly.
bilbo0s 8y ago
>What happens after Rice? ??? Who cares? The object here is to get talented people an education. What they do with that education is their decision. The owners of your hypothetical company can do whatever they please with the educations they have obtained over the course of their lifetimes. And the students, who now have an opportunity at a cost free education, can similarly do whatever they please with the educations they obtained. It's called freedom. Take all the educations we've been providing and go out and enjoy all the freedoms you have. Maybe I'm not understanding your view correctly? What, exactly, is the problem with allowing poor or middle class students into Rice at a reduced rate? (Or even free in most cases)?