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Starting off, this article is extremely biased. I have not seen such anti-male journalism in some time. She is trying to portray pretty much all ASMR creators a
by Rotdhizon 8y ago
Starting off, this article is extremely biased. I have not seen such anti-male journalism in some time. She is trying to portray pretty much all ASMR creators as victims for making innocent content and that just isn't true. Sure there are a lot of legit ASMR creators whos content is non-sexual and relaxing. However, there are way more sexual and pseudo-sexual ASMR channels that she leads you to believe.
Paypal isn't a bank and should not be used as such. They can suspend/freeze/ban you for any reason under the sun. Paypal has long been known to screw people over. Contrary to the article trying to portray that woman and LGBT people are under some mystical male abuse campaign from PP and YT, men are just as well caught in the net of problems both platforms cast.
Now these legit channels being targeted by report/flag campaigns is bad. There really isn't much recourse on either platform. Once you're punished, you have to go to hell and back to get unpunished. She is right in saying that these platforms are not built to handle edge cases like targeted harassment. She seems to think that sexuality shouldn't be a punishable offense on these platforms, which I think most people would disagree with. While this focuses on this specific case, this points to a broader problem that these platforms in the entirety are subject to abuse from organized groups. Yes ASMR creators were targeted here, but an organized push against most any group on these platforms could result in false bans/suspensions. I don't think this article belongs on HN. From a different source that is more unbiased yes, but this article is absurdly written.
- tareqak 8y agoCould you please comment on the 8chan activity that's mentioned in the article? Would you say that there is any bias there?
- sterlind 8y agoYou jumped to conclusions about the article being anti-male. I have no idea how you got there... Is it "anti-male" to call out a handful of men on 8chan for harassing women? I'm curious if you bothered to lookup the blacklisted creators before asserting that they were sexual. For your convenience, I've listed them below: ASMR Glow: https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCFmL725KKPx2URVPvH3Gp8w https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCFmL725KKPx2URVPvH3Gp8w Scottish Murmurs: https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCLcyg3kjSwlUxjnQhSMqfmg https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCLcyg3kjSwlUxjnQhSMqfmg Rose ASMR: https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCGVV7XI1shSNCaF4dmYsOCg/videos https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCGVV7XI1shSNCaF4dmYsOCg/video... Creative Calm: https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCrIPWaSEHW4CqX0hGtxsQwg https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCrIPWaSEHW4CqX0hGtxsQwg
- dzhiurgis 8y ago> Is it "anti-male" to call out a handful of men on 8chan for harassing women? No, but it's insane to take *chan seriously. It's a satire site.
- Kim_Bruning 8y agoI'm not sure. Things on eg. 4-chan sometimes spill out into the real world from time to time. Sometimes it's awesome, sometimes terrifying. (Think chaotic neutral)
- sterlind 8y agoIn this case 8chan got their PayPal accounts frozen. People tend to take losing access to their funds pretty seriously.
- gizmo686 8y agoThe fact that PayPall can do something does not make them immune to critism, or jouranlistic review. That is precisly the check on private company that is supposed to occur in a free market: they do something bad, and the bad thing gets publisized do people can make an informed choice on if they want to use the service. As an aside, there is an arguement to be had on if there should be legal recourse against PayPal, or even if they would win on the merits of a civil suit if brought.