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To give you an idea of what I mean, check out section 232 of Beyond Good and Evil. I won't post an excerpt here because it will just get me banned.

freedomben 8y ago
Oh haha, yes the misogyny. Fair point indeed.
RangerScience 8y ago
Meh. Everyone is fucked up in some way, usually in a way that's a product of their times (classic example: Jefferson and slavery). Always seemed to me that critical thinking is partly about sorting the good shit from the bad; to put it another way, this is why it's important to not trust authority just because it's authority. Evaluate each thing on its own merits (as best as your capabilities the situation allows) and go from there.
- hnthrowaway789 8y ago
  As a general principle I agree though I would go a step further and encourage more humility when a particular concept evokes a visceral emotional response. That could be a sign that it the product of the times you yourself are living in. I take issue with Nietzsche's skepticism and derision of democracy but I'm willing to entertain his arguments and perspective. Carl Jung put forth a theory in his Psychological Types that Nietzsche's particular views on democracy were a reaction to his particular historical circumstances which makes sense to me.
dang 8y ago
We'd ban someone just for quoting Nietzsche? What an idea.
mockingbirdy 8y ago
tl;dr - Nietzsche was the result of his times when it comes to women. I believe many people here have differentiated opinions. There wouldn't be a ban because you e.g. quote the bible, although it has some really misogynistic lines, especially if you want to challenge opinions in an intellectually challenging way. Many people are open for discussions - I mean, 80% of HN's value stems from being a platform where you can procrastinate easily. http://nietzsche.holtof.com/reader/friedrich-nietzsche/beyond-good-and-evil/aphorism-232-quote_1a4cd8069.html http://nietzsche.holtof.com/reader/friedrich-nietzsche/beyon...

freedomben 8y ago

Oh haha, yes the misogyny. Fair point indeed.

RangerScience 8y ago

Meh. Everyone is fucked up in some way, usually in a way that's a product of their times (classic example: Jefferson and slavery). Always seemed to me that critical thinking is partly about sorting the good shit from the bad; to put it another way, this is why it's important to not trust authority just because it's authority. Evaluate each thing on its own merits (as best as your capabilities the situation allows) and go from there.

hnthrowaway789 8y ago
As a general principle I agree though I would go a step further and encourage more humility when a particular concept evokes a visceral emotional response. That could be a sign that it the product of the times you yourself are living in. I take issue with Nietzsche's skepticism and derision of democracy but I'm willing to entertain his arguments and perspective. Carl Jung put forth a theory in his Psychological Types that Nietzsche's particular views on democracy were a reaction to his particular historical circumstances which makes sense to me.

dang 8y ago

We'd ban someone just for quoting Nietzsche? What an idea.

mockingbirdy 8y ago

tl;dr - Nietzsche was the result of his times when it comes to women. I believe many people here have differentiated opinions. There wouldn't be a ban because you e.g. quote the bible, although it has some really misogynistic lines, especially if you want to challenge opinions in an intellectually challenging way. Many people are open for discussions - I mean, 80% of HN's value stems from being a platform where you can procrastinate easily. http://nietzsche.holtof.com/reader/friedrich-nietzsche/beyond-good-and-evil/aphorism-232-quote_1a4cd8069.html http://nietzsche.holtof.com/reader/friedrich-nietzsche/beyon...