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"Instead of watching TV at night alone at home people could walk over to their friends place or go out to a cute restaurant or well groomed park." No thank you
by z0r 8y ago
"Instead of watching TV at night alone at home people could walk over to their friends place or go out to a cute restaurant or well groomed park."
No thank you. As much as I like my home town, I don't want to pay a fortune (that could buy a castle or another absurdly large property elsewhere) for a crappy house or condo in the densest part of Toronto and never enjoy personal peace and quiet again. Not everyone wants to live in miserable close quarters paying exorbitant rent for the freedom to walk to convenient overpriced services.
A home and a yard allows those who need it to live with a measure of dignity. It's pants and you're trying to argue that everyone would be fine with shorts.
Ironically I live in NYC right now which is even worse in most of those respects, but at least the pay/COL ratio is better. Public transportation is better too. In the end if I buy a home it isn't going to be in either city.
- 3pt14159 8y agoI'm not arguing everyone should live in huge, loud cities. You can still have sleepy towns with trains. I'm arguing that cars ruin lives and cities.
- z0r 8y agoI think it's mostly those who are better off than average who argue against cars. No other comment from me.
- Karrot_Kream 8y agoThis is an attack on character and a bit disingenuous. If a rich person proposed a good idea, would we not listen to them because they are rich?
- z0r 8y agoMy point is that it is a lot easier to argue against cars when you make a good living and can afford the nicer parts of the city. When your choice is a crappy car commute or a nightmare commute via trains and public transit, and the places in your budget for you to live in don't have "cute restaurants" or "well groomed parks", things are not so cut and dry. Cars improve quality of life for many people and it's downright myopic and classist to say they ruin lives and cities.
- 3pt14159 8y agoYou're confusing cause and effect. The effect of having cars everywhere is that we end up with cities where the downtown core is hyper dense and the extents are flat. What we want is the opposite. Six storey mid rises. And commutes via trains and mass transit are only nightmares when they're all trying to get to the same place and they're 3rd class citizens to cars and trucks.